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  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #16
    That's a really Nice M1905 (updated to 1910) scabbard Rick. The bayonet ain't bad either!
    Last edited by Fred; 10-09-2013, 01:21.

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    • Fred
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4977

      #17
      Here is an example (in the link below) of an original M1910 scabbard that is pretty nice and comes with a somewhat worn 1905 bayonet. Although the webbing of the scabbard has shrunk in length after being wet. The web cover can be stretched back out again easily by first taking it off of the scabbard body (they were made to do that for cleaning purposes) and then wetting it down, being careful Not to wet the leather in the process. Then the web cover can have the excess water soaked up using a towel and then placing it back onto the body, the web cover should be stretched by continually pulling it lengthways from the base to the throat between the thumb and fingers. Once the proper length of the webbing is achieved, it should be occasionally stretched in the same manner as it continues to dry.
      This scabbard alone is worth the opening bid on this auction (no, I have nothing to do with this auction). It's amazing to me that such items are ignored by many who will errantly seek out and buy a reproduction scabbard... sometimes with a reproduction bayonet too, all for a lot more money, while thinking that they're buying something genuine. It really does pay to get out and look at all sorts of original stuff as well as reproductions. Then, the obvious differences between the two will be easily noticed.

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      Last edited by Fred; 10-09-2013, 07:42.

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      • aptech77
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 170

        #18
        removed
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        Last edited by aptech77; 10-09-2013, 11:39.

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        • Fred
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 4977

          #19
          My oh my! Yet another "original" one he's selling that's in the same brand new condition. Identical with the other two. And, there will most certainly be buyers bidding it up to between $200.00 and $300.00 like the last two I've noticed he's sold. I don't know if the seller sold any others before these last three, but Gosh, he's certainly taking advantage of P.T. Barnum's saying about" There's a Sucker Born Every Minute".
          The seller must've bought a bunch of them from WPG because when I tried to buy one from Jerry, who owns the company, he told me that he was all sold out for awhile and had more on order. Oh well, when I Do buy one or two to fit my scabbardless 1905 bayonet's in, I'll only have to pay the $42.00 or so that WPG is asking for them. They ARE very well made scabbards. I won't be trying to age them or pass them off as originals. If some folks want to pay $300.00 for one, that's their business I suppose. Sigh...

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          Last edited by Fred; 10-22-2013, 07:40.

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          • ClaudeH
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 199

            #20
            From Bannermans!

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #21
              Must be

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              • ClaudeH
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 199

                #22
                I've inquired of this seller as to the "originality" of his item:

                Dear 1961dwayne,

                Wow! Bannermans! I thought all his stuff was rotted and mildewed by now. This is original US Army manufacture, not a reproduction? How can I descern that? What part of what picture demonstrates the originality? Thanks!

                ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay]

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                Dear ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay],

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                - 1961dwayne

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                Dear 1961dwayne,

                Your answer is a question mark?

                Please point out features in your photos that will help me distinguish your original sheath from the very good reproductions that are being made.

                - ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay]

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                Dear ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay],

                leather scabbard tip and stitching, brass web belt attachment, cloth material and stitching, examine the other photos also.


                - 1961dwayne

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                1961dwayne,

                Yes, but the reproductions have all of those features. How can you demonstrate the originality of your item versus being a reproduction?

                ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay]

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                He really doesn't care to address his claim of originality head-on, does he? His answers strike me as purposely evasive.

                If he responds to my third inquiry, I'll let you know.

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                Someone ought to start a web-site that is an index of apparently fraudulent online sales. Since e-Bay doesn't reveal bidders or allow others to contact them anymore, a person could scan the index to check out ths lerrer generally or comments like this thread about specific items.

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                • Fred
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4977

                  #23
                  That's mighty interesting Claude! I appreciate you doing that. The guy is a shifty one and I'll bet won't stop putting even more of the scabbards up for auction after this one sells. The lure of easy money seems too much of a temptation for him what with him getting back 7 to 8 times his investment of $48.00 or so in each scabbard. Hopefully, our discussing the issue here on this forum will warn some people away from buying from him. Thanks again!

                  F.G.

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                  • Fred
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4977

                    #24
                    OOps! The guy selling the third reproduction scabbard is a different guy from the guy who sold the first two. Gee, maybe this guy is trying to unload one that he got stuck with or is trying to make a fast buck like the first guy. Interesting how he chose to use a red cloth back drop in some of his photos like the first guy did.
                    Last edited by Fred; 10-25-2013, 06:05.

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ClaudeH
                      [[SIZE=2]Someone ought to start a web-site that is an index of apparently fraudulent online sales. Since e-Bay doesn't reveal bidders or allow others to contact them anymore, a person could scan the index to check out ths lerrer generally or comments like this thread about specific items.
                      A good idea, but could you imagine the legal complications and "points of view"? I doubt we'll ever see it happen.
                      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                      --C.S. Lewis

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                      • ClaudeH
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 199

                        #26
                        Oh yeah, there would be legal implications. Outright slams like "This guy's a crook" or "Kriger [sic] is shady" would be risky behavior. But straightforward descriptions of what you saw and why it created doubts in your mind, along with appropriate caveats about not having seen it in person, etc. ought to sail. Maybe?

                        It's along the lines of another reporting service I've always wanted to start: A legal hazards reporting service. For instance if someone reported to the service that a certain store had a large lighted sign on a pylon that was severely rusted at the bottom and likely to soon topple, possible injuring someone - The service would forward the complaint to the property owner and then make a complete entry of the complaint and the facts of forwarding it to the property owner on such and such a date. If someone was injured the negligent party would be pretty defenseless. You would pay for this by charging a hefty subscription price to lawyers! Besides the social justice aspects, there's something about the sound of 'charging lawyers hefty fees' that just warms my heart!

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                        • ClaudeH
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 199

                          #27
                          Dear ClaudeH [Here, I have substituted my name on this forum vs. on e-Bay],

                          That's all I can give you. If you're not comfortable with this scabbard, please do not bid.
                          thanks,
                          Dwayne

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