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  • Viking Guy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 200

    #1

    Remington 1903 (not A3)

    Gents,

    I've got a nice Rem 1903 receiver S/N 31231XX. Looking through various on line sites, the manufacture date seems to be March or April 1942. It may be unrealistic, I'm in no hurry, but I want to put an original barrel on it and restore it to the extent I can. My questions are: Does that S/N number appear to be correct for a 3/4-42 date? And, how far on either side of that date can a dated barrel reasonably be expected to fall, i.e., how many months before or how many months after the receiver date?

    TIA

    VG
  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #2
    The manufacture date I would estimate is more in the May to June, 1942 area. I have seen barrel date "variations in the 2-3 month range or less.
    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
    --C.S. Lewis

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    • TDP0311
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 240

      #3
      Speaking of Remington 1903s, there is a possible USMC one on gunbroker right now... Price is pretty steep, not sure on SRS, but this rifle looks great. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=375426373

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      • Dave in NGA
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 968

        #4
        VG, I hope you have better luck than I had finding a Remington 03 barrel of the correct date. My Remington 03 (3059125} had a 12-41 barrel on it orginally. The bore was shot out and totally trashed. The best I could do was a used Remington 03 barrel dated 3-42. It had to be counterbored to group.

        All this was after ordering a supposed 03 Remington barrel which turned out to be a reworked A3 barrel with a rear sight base added. Someone made up a bunch of these bogus barrel using 2 groove A3's and cutting two more grooves. So when it comes time to purchase your Remington barrel "buyer beware".

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #5
          The seller has an overactive imagination, as well as a price I would say is about double what it is worth. It is not a M1903A1 and most Remington M1903s did NOT have replacement SA barrels. Most Remingtons that I have examined or been made aware of still have original Remington barrels. The only thing I see on the rifle that might be USMC is the stippled buttplate; one of the easiest parts to "replace".
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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          • Doug Douglass
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2264

            #6
            Originally posted by TDP0311
            Speaking of Remington 1903s, there is a possible USMC one on gunbroker right now... Price is pretty steep, not sure on SRS, but this rifle looks great. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=375426373
            Steep? wow starting at $1795...not suprised at no bids

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            • Viking Guy
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 200

              #7
              Thanks, Guys.

              The quest begins!

              VG

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              • TDP0311
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 240

                #8
                I was browsing through gunbroker and took another look at that Remington 1903 I posted earlier that is listed for nearly twice its value... the owner said it has a Springfield barrel- and that most did, which of course isn't true.

                Come to find out, he was fooled by the army flaming bomb... it isn't a Springfield barrel, sure enough right above the bomb is a clear R A denoting it is an original Remington barrel. Just thought I'd share... Perhaps after this auction ends he will re-evaluate his prices, as this rifle does look to be in excellent condition.

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                • John Beard
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2275

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TDP0311
                  I was browsing through gunbroker and took another look at that Remington 1903 I posted earlier that is listed for nearly twice its value... the owner said it has a Springfield barrel- and that most did, which of course isn't true.

                  Come to find out, he was fooled by the army flaming bomb... it isn't a Springfield barrel, sure enough right above the bomb is a clear R A denoting it is an original Remington barrel. Just thought I'd share... Perhaps after this auction ends he will re-evaluate his prices, as this rifle does look to be in excellent condition.
                  The gunbroker rifle appears to exhibit an overhaul proof mark from the San Antonio Arsenal. An authentic USMC rifle would not likely exhibit that proof mark. Using an expression from animal husbandry, the USMC buttplate apparently "jumped the fence."

                  For what it's worth.

                  J.B.

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                  • Kurt
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 488

                    #10
                    Darn, now I have to clean my keyboard! "Using an expression from animal husbandry, the USMC buttplate apparently "jumped the fence."
                    As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                    • springfield3
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 109

                      #11
                      Hello,
                      PM sent about a barrel
                      Bob

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                      • Viking Guy
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 200

                        #12
                        Bob,

                        Check your mail

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                        • Viking Guy
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 200

                          #13
                          One more question on this 1.2M Remington 1903: Should this rifle have the older bolt i.e.,

                          Is marked with a large "R" underneath the handle.
                          Has a curved handle.
                          Has a smooth body.
                          Has a milled extractor collar.
                          Has bolt stop detents in the left locking lug.
                          Has a small gas escape hole between the locking lugs

                          I'm able to ask these questions due to what I have found on this forum, in particular from John Beard and Rick the Librarian. The bottom line is I'm trying to restore this piece to original configuration and I'm pretty confident on what should/should not be milled or blued, etc. It's just the whole bolt thing that is throwing me off as I'm more used to 1903A3's which seem to be a whole lot simpler.

                          Thanks, and Merry Christmas to All!
                          VG

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                          • John Beard
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2275

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Viking Guy
                            One more question on this 1.2M Remington 1903: Should this rifle have the older bolt i.e.,

                            Is marked with a large "R" underneath the handle.
                            Has a curved handle.
                            Has a smooth body.
                            Has a milled extractor collar.
                            Has bolt stop detents in the left locking lug.
                            Has a small gas escape hole between the locking lugs

                            I'm able to ask these questions due to what I have found on this forum, in particular from John Beard and Rick the Librarian. The bottom line is I'm trying to restore this piece to original configuration and I'm pretty confident on what should/should not be milled or blued, etc. It's just the whole bolt thing that is throwing me off as I'm more used to 1903A3's which seem to be a whole lot simpler.

                            Thanks, and Merry Christmas to All!
                            VG
                            The correct bolt for your Remington rifle, S/N 3123xxx, would be as follows:

                            (1) Have a very small "R" stamped underneath the handle.
                            (2) Have a curved handle.
                            (3) Have a smooth or semi-smooth body.
                            (4) Have a milled extractor collar.
                            (5) Would NOT have bolt stop detents.
                            (6) Would have a large gas escape hole.

                            Hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

                            J.B.

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                            • Emri
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1649

                              #15
                              Here is you a source of parts for your project. You will still need to find a correct bolt though.

                              http://www.gunauction.com/buy/12556513

                              Good Luck with your project !!

                              Emri

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