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  • jerrbear
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 121

    #31
    Do you think the FJA stamp on this rifle is legit?

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    • John Beard
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2275

      #32
      The "FJA" stamp on your rifle appears legitimate.

      J.B.

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      • Dick Hosmer
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5997

        #33
        Looking at the FJA reminded me of a question I've had for years regarding the small ordnance crest, which also shows up on Krags, sometimes adjacent to a pair of large (larger than the FJA here) letters deeply stamped - "HH" and "JJ" have been noted.

        Does anyone know when use of that stamp for marking stocks originated? Thanks.
        Last edited by Dick Hosmer; 12-12-2013, 09:16.

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        • John Beard
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2275

          #34
          Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
          Looking at the FJA reminded me of a question I've had for years regarding the small ordnance crest, which also shows up on Krags, sometimes adjacent to a pair of large (larger than the FJA here) letters deeply stamped - "HH" and "JJ" have been noted.

          Does anyone know when use of that stamp for marking stocks originated? Thanks.
          As I recall, my earliest observation of a crossed-cannons Ordnance Escutcheon was on an M1903A1 rifle exhibiting a boxed "S.A./G.H.S." inspection stamp. But, I don't recall that the Ordnance Escutcheon was small (there are at least two different sizes). I think it was the larger escutcheon.

          The early Remington M1903 rifles assembled in late 1941 exhibited the small Ordnance Escutcheon.

          Hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

          J.B.

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          • Dick Hosmer
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5997

            #35
            Thanks, John - Merry Christmas to you as well.

            It would seem, then, to be a mark that was applied for some official purpose, but well after the 'active' Krag era. Perhaps stateside Coast Guard, or dock/warehouse protection? I believe there are records of .45-70s being used in the Great Lakes area.

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            • John Beard
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2275

              #36
              Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
              Thanks, John - Merry Christmas to you as well.

              It would seem, then, to be a mark that was applied for some official purpose, but well after the 'active' Krag era. Perhaps stateside Coast Guard, or dock/warehouse protection? I believe there are records of .45-70s being used in the Great Lakes area.
              The crossed-cannons Ordnance Escutcheon was an official "trademark" of the U.S. Army Ordnance Dept. I am not aware of any other service branches using it. I believe the crossed-cannons Ordnance Escutcheon significantly pre-dates WWI. But its appearance on small arms didn't begin until about 1941.

              Hope this helps.

              J.B.

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