RIA rifle with SA barrel question.

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  • Don in SC
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 115

    #1

    RIA rifle with SA barrel question.

    I've got a RIA that was manufactured in 1919 or 1920 by the S/N. Is it known for sure that all of the RIA's in that time frame went to SA for assembly? If so could a 1916 dated barrel be correct for a 370,000 numbered rifle? Donald
  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #2
    No, the barrel is a replacement. Actually, RIA rifles with that serial number range may have been finished at Rock Island. It is only with those with a higher range that were "for sure" sent to Springfield at finished there. IIRC, s/n 375,000-405,000, about a 50% chance, 405,000-430,742, a 90% chance.
    Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 12-19-2013, 06:40.
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    • John Beard
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2275

      #3
      Seasons' Greetings!

      As Rick the Librarian correctly noted, there's a very small chance that your rifle was finished at SA in the late 1920's. Should that be the case, then the SA 1916-dated barrel could have been salvaged from a scrapped receiver and fitted as the original barrel to your receiver. But again, the statistical odds are small.

      Hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

      J.B.

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      • munkjeep
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 21

        #4
        Does a ROCK ISLAND M1903 ser # 407555 with a 1-21 SA barrel sound correct ?

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        • John Beard
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2275

          #5
          Originally posted by munkjeep
          Does a ROCK ISLAND M1903 ser # 407555 with a 1-21 SA barrel sound correct ?
          Seasons' Greetings!

          One cannot rule out the possibility that an S.A./1-21 barrel is original to RIA S/N 407555. The statistical odds, however, are about 1:10.

          Hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

          J.B.
          Last edited by John Beard; 12-25-2013, 02:49.

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          • Don in SC
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 115

            #6
            Thanks for the info. 1903's are not my strong point on US arms.

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            • munkjeep
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 21

              #7
              Originally posted by John Beard
              Seasons' Greetings!

              One cannot rule out the possibility that an S.A./1-21 barrel is original to RIA S/N 407555. The statistical odds, however, are about 1:10.

              Hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

              J.B.
              John, My memory is slipping, RIA S/N 407555 has a S.A./11-28 barrel , not 1-21 . Does that sound more correct ?
              Thanx, I am more of a 1911 and Garand guy, but have 5 Rock Islands that I really don't know enough about .

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              • Rick the Librarian
                Super Moderator
                • Aug 2009
                • 6700

                #8
                I'm not John, but yes, that sounds much more correct. The receivers sent to Springfield from RIA usually received barrels in the 1926-29 range.
                "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                --C.S. Lewis

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                • John Beard
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2275

                  #9
                  Originally posted by munkjeep
                  John, My memory is slipping, RIA S/N 407555 has a S.A./11-28 barrel , not 1-21 . Does that sound more correct ?
                  Thanx, I am more of a 1911 and Garand guy, but have 5 Rock Islands that I really don't know enough about .
                  Seasons' Greetings!

                  Absolutely! RIA S/N 407555 with S.A./11-28 barrel is an original combination with very high statistical probability.

                  Thanks for the correction! Happy New Year!

                  J.B.

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