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I have an straight handle 19o3 bolt that looks to be marked either c7 or l3 depending what is up or down . It is marked on the side of the rear lug. Can any one tell me what is the proper serial number range that this bolt goes to? Thanks in advance.
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When you say the "side" can you be more specific? Is it on the front of the safety lug, the top, or the bottom?
C7 was on the bottom of the safety lug, and, according to John Beard's bolt charts, was produced just before the switch to the safer forging method; I3 was marked on bolts manufactured in the 1910 period and is also the mark of a casehardened bolt; The stamp is also on the bottom of the safety lug.
Here is the link to Vishooter's website, that has John's bolt marking charts.
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Hold the bolt in your hands with the locking lugs in your left hand and the handle in your right hand. Then while holding the bolt in that manner, rotate the bolt in your fingers and read the steel lot code on the bottom of the safety lug.
J.B.
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For those interested in revealing information and like to play games, there's a hidden message in the statements above. See if you can figure out what it is. I will not disclose what it is, but I will confirm if someone discovers it.Last edited by John Beard; 01-12-2014, 05:50.Comment
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Heck, I'll take a shot at it....this will orient the bolt so the number is read correctly and not upside down.
KurtAs the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."Comment
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Heat lot code can be read on bolt while remaining in receiver after opening action in the typical manner of operating bolt...Comment
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Logic be damned, I have blisters on both hands now, how long does it take for the logic to follow?. LOL. Perhaps it's as simple as identifying which part of the safety lug is the bottom (where you will find the heat lot code and read it correctly). Numerous times its described as the side, or the bottom, or the back, or the lug, all in one sentence and depending oh how you look at it.
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KurtAs the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."Comment
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"Logic" is a thought process, not a hand-waving exercise. So if the steel lot code is always in the same location and same orientation, what does that tell you?
www.healthcare.gov may be what you're seeking.
J.B.Last edited by John Beard; 01-14-2014, 09:32.Comment
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Logically it would dictate that the code is correctly read left to right when properly oriented and steel lot codes with few exceptions, consisted of an alpha letter followed by a numeric number in this location.
Healthcare.gov is illogical in concept and contrary to basic law which is supposed to be based on logic..or was at one time anyway. But, that's another topic...
As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."Comment
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You are correct on both counts. But the hidden message remains undiscovered. I commend you for trying!Logically it would dictate that the code is correctly read left to right when properly oriented and steel lot codes with few exceptions, consisted of an alpha letter followed by a numeric number in this location.
Healthcare.gov is illogical in concept and contrary to basic law which is supposed to be based on logic..or was at one time anyway. But, that's another topic...
J.B.Comment
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Although I can't prove it, I think I may have distant genetics in Missouri. Final answer, the bottom of the safety lug is the safest (pun intended) place that you could put a number such as that with the least chance of it getting worn off. At least with the steel at that time.
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KurtAs the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."Comment
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I must commend you for trying! But your last two answers wandered off on tangents that were not relevant to the immediate subject at hand. I made no suggestion that the steel lot code consisted of a letter and a number or that it was not subject to wear, although both considerations are true. The real question is: Why does it always appear in the exact same location and orientation?Last edited by John Beard; 01-16-2014, 05:51.Comment
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For consistency in locating it and also for quick assessment of the type of bolt? Also, if a bolt fails and the locking lugs are sheared off, the type of bolt it is can still be assessed from the safety lug. The orientation and location of the code stamped into the safety lug allows a person holding the rifle at port arms to just lift he bolt handle and read what's stamped into the lug.Last edited by Fred; 01-16-2014, 09:48.Comment
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