SA 6-13 Blow up!

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  • Paul s
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 11

    #1

    SA 6-13 Blow up!

    03 12..jpg Picked this up at the local Flea Market yesterday. Gee, I quess theres some wisdom in the advice to not shoot low-number 03's!
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    Last edited by Paul s; 02-22-2014, 06:04.
  • Mike D
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 1031

    #2
    Know the serial #? Barrel still good?

    Mike

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    • Fred
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4977

      #3
      The right side of the receiver is deformed where the safety lug took the force when the bolt set back. Are there any bulges within the barrel that would indicate a bore obstruction? If not, then maybe it was escaping gas from a failed case. It appears that the receiver gave way before the floor plate blew out.
      Last edited by Fred; 02-22-2014, 07:27.

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      • Paul s
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 11

        #4
        There is something stuck fast just ahead of the chamber, can not see what it is? The patina on the exposed fractures match the rest of the rifle so I would say the blow up happened long ago

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        • 4F4Nam
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1058

          #5
          Originally posted by Paul s
          There is something stuck fast just ahead of the chamber, can not see what it is? The patina on the exposed fractures match the rest of the rifle so I would say the blow up happened long ago
          A bullet perhaps? Try driving it out from the muzzle with a stiff rod. Be interesting to see what it is. That would account for the failure.

          Ed

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          • pickax
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 113

            #6
            Nice stock though, hope its fixable.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              If someone had the time, money and interest...it would be interesting to have that receiver forging tested in a lab for analysis.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • chuckindenver
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3005

                #8
                classic case head failure..
                how do you know its a SHT? do you still have the top of the action with serial number?
                Last edited by chuckindenver; 02-22-2014, 06:54.
                if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                • lonegunman762x51
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 62

                  #9
                  It looks like it blew in the 1910's. It could have failed firing a proof cartridge or because it had a blocked barrel. The actual number of 03's that failed because of heat treating was very low if I am not mistaken. Like in the 10-20 range.

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                  • oldtirediron
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 242

                    #10
                    I have done some careful examination of the pictures of this rifle-- I would agree this rifle was destroyed by a case head failure but I think it was a much later date probably the 1920's to 1930's FWIW-- How about a picture of the barrel date area?? Bad ammunition, a plugged barrel?? whatever is stuck in the barrel would be nice to see!! I would put a bunch of PB Blaster or (Kroil) down the barrel from the muzzle ' then try knock the obstuction outfrom the muzzle!! However i would let the PB Blaster or (Kroil) soak for several weeks before I atttempted to remove the obstruction!!

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                    • Kurt
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 488

                      #11
                      I'm assuming from the OP's title, SA 6-13, that's the barrel date? Possible to date the gun to that with the rear sight sleeve and sight style? Stock cartouche?

                      Kurt
                      As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                      • Paul s
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Barrel date is SA over 6-13 Is a 2 lug stock correct for a 1913 vintage Springfield?
                        Last edited by Paul s; 02-23-2014, 04:22.

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                        • Paul s
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuckindenver
                          classic case head failure..
                          how do you know its a SHT? do you still have the top of the action with serial number?
                          Just going by the barrel date (6-13) just have what you see of the rifle

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                          • Mike D
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1031

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paul s
                            Barrel date is SA over 6-13 Is a 2 lug stock correct for a 1913 vintage Springfield?
                            No. Single-bolt would be correct.

                            Mike

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                            • chuckindenver
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3005

                              #15
                              JB may be able to get a accuarate take in the heat treatment, if you have the steel lot code off the receiver face..
                              if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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