1903 Sight collar question

[ncblksmth1]

Just found one with C 63934 number on it. Anybody know what this means?

Thanks in advance

[Rick the Librarian]

It's a drawing number - it appears on parts made in the mid- to late 1930s. NOT a serial number but something more akin to a "catalog" number.

[ncblksmth1]

Can I PM you with some questions?

[ncblksmth1]

I have a 1903 I believe to be an A1. It has a prick mark in the right rail. The sight collar marked as above. Rear sight with no volley notch at top. There is a small 0 punch mark just under the serial number on the ridge. It has a Hatcher hole with rough edge. The barrel has a P located center bottom 2.5" from the sight collar, at the 2:00 position there is an R and then a 1 or dash. Barrel is an SA / ord bomb/ over4-38. Not Star marked. The stock is a C type with the D1864-4# front of the rear swivel, and a Boxed R or P a space and a -P. The Bolt is a J 6 Bolt marked on the safety lug. What do I have? A real a1 or just a shooter or something else?












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[Promo]

Post pictures of it and the serial, it might be worth checking it if it's SRS listed as a NM rifle.

[Ed Byrns]

"C 63394"on a rear collar affixed to a barrel dated from 1936 late to 1939 is a part # describing the entire assembly as
a "Service Grade Barrel Assembly".

[Ed Byrns]

"C 63934 " is a part number describing an entire Barrel assembly.
Used from Late 1936 to the end of 1939 when attached to a barrel with those years.

[chuckindenver]

drawing numbers were used on some parts starting 1935 or so...on original and replacement parts.

[ncblksmth1]

How is Service grade judged? Pardon my ignorance

[Mike D]

Bob - Is that the rifle with serial # 1,299,XXX? If so, I remember looking at it at the gun show, and the "o" I observed is the mark of an unfinished receiver made by RIA and given to SA in 1926 and used from '27-'29.

Mike

[John Beard]

Just found one with C 63934 number on it. Anybody know what this means?

Thanks in advance

C 63934 is the U.S. Army Ordnance drawing number for a Barrel and Receiver Assembly, Service Rifle.

Hope this helps.

J.B.

[John Beard]

I have a 1903 I believe to be an A1. It has a prick mark in the right rail. The sight collar marked as above. Rear sight with no volley notch at top. There is a small 0 punch mark just under the serial number on the ridge. It has a Hatcher hole with rough edge. The barrel has a P located center bottom 2.5" from the sight collar, at the 2:00 position there is an R and then a 1 or dash. Barrel is an SA / ord bomb/ over4-38. Not Star marked. The stock is a C type with the D1864-4# front of the rear swivel, and a Boxed R or P a space and a -P. The Bolt is a J 6 Bolt marked on the safety lug. What do I have? A real a1 or just a shooter or something else?/

What you have depends upon your point of view. The Army considered any rifle fitted with a Type C stock as an M1903A1. If you share that point of view, then you have a real A1.

If your rifle passes headspace, has a good bore, is solidly bedded in the stock, is complete, and is in good serviceable condition, then you potentially have a shooter.

Your rifle's receiver is not contemporary with the barrel date, which is not contemporary with the stock. The receiver precedes the emergence of M1903A1 service rifles by several years. A knowledgeable collector, therefore, would not likely consider your rifle as an M1903A1. If you share that point of view, then you have something else.

Hope this helps.

J.B.

[ncblksmth1]

Who used the 1903-a1's? Nm personnel or others?

[John Beard]

Who used the 1903-a1's? Nm personnel or others?

M1903A1's were issued for regular service use beginning in 1935.

J.B.