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  • CptEnglehorn
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 293

    #1

    Fake Cartouches ?

    Am I being overly careful, or does the SA GAW and Ordnance wheel not look right.


    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=411994605
  • RCS
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2180

    #2
    SA GAW WW2 rebuild stamp

    Here is an original SA GAW rebuild stamp on a Winchester M1 rifle stock. You can compare these stamps
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    • SemperFi, 0321
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 35

      #3
      You ever tried using stamps?
      I can't count the times I've slipped and busted my fingers or smashed something I wasn't supposed to. Not every stamp job comes out perfect, they're done by hand and people get tired or have accidents. Wood fibers do funny things over time too. Get used to it, it's not a perfect world.
      And it doesn't make it a fake if it's not all lined up and done with a CNC hydraulic press in a nuclear lab either.

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      • Allen Humphrey
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 606

        #4
        Yep. Stamping can be easy to goof up, but the fact is, people are faking them. In this picture the stock does not appear to be recently refinished and the lines of the stamp seem to have accumulated oil, sweat, and dirt just like you would expect. I think it is legit. That's my 2cents.

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        • Doug Rammel
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 145

          #5
          they look OK to me.

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          • chuckindenver
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3005

            #6
            hmmmm. the crossed cannons look to be suspect...as does the R.I.A marking on a 1966 dated sling.
            if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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            • 2111
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 863

              #7
              Originally posted by chuckindenver
              hmmmm. the crossed cannons look to be suspect...as does the R.I.A marking on a 1966 dated sling.
              Not sure but the sling may be marked 1956
              Last edited by 2111; 04-24-2014, 04:39.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Look real to me.
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • da gimp
                  Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10137

                  #9
                  wish Rick Borecky could see it.......... I've got too bad a serious case of CRS about all the wonderful facts & notes he's given over the years on cartouches..............he's kept me from getting hooked twice for some serious money on 2 Garand stocks that had cartouches that had been "improved" .......... the only thing he'd take is a thank you too.
                  be safe, enjoy life, journey well
                  da gimp
                  OFC, Mo. Chapter

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                  • chuckindenver
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3005

                    #10
                    6-66 ,,, thinks thats cooler though,,,,thats the devils gun...lol
                    if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                    • CptEnglehorn
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 293

                      #11
                      looked like a decent rifle, could be the angle of the pictures, the SA GAW seemed clearer than id expect. Still learning

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                      • Rick the Librarian
                        Super Moderator
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6700

                        #12
                        Rick B is definitely the person to ask - try PMing him. The stamp looked a little "deep" to me, but far from an expert on these.
                        "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                        --C.S. Lewis

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                        • Mike D
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1031

                          #13
                          I don't like the looks of them. One of the finger grooves looks to be sanded down a good bit. Stamps seem deep. I get enough of a feeling to pass on it, for sure.

                          Mike

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                          • 2111
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 863

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuckindenver
                            6-66 ,,, thinks thats cooler though,,,,thats the devils gun...lol
                            Sure looks like 6-56 to me.

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                            • SemperFi, 0321
                              Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 35

                              #15
                              Speaking of numbers, it just clicked for me, 2111, I were one too once.http://www.jouster.com/forums/images...s/icon_lol.gif

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