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  • rmcnabb
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 3

    #1

    Legitimate NRA?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=424768659

    Not attracting much interest. Something about it feels wrong to me. I don't know enough to know. Maybe a restock? Any thoughts?
  • m1903rifle
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 588

    #2
    Looks good to me:

    1356069 SPT 10/17/30 DCM Rifle Sales 1922-42

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    • rmcnabb
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 3

      #3
      What about 1356079? That's the rifle' actual SN, not what is listed in the text body. Thanks very much.

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      • m1903rifle
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 588

        #4
        Yes..................that one too:

        1356079 SPT 05/09/31 DCM Rifle Sales 1922-42

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        • Chris W.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 357

          #5
          What doesn't look right is the way the SN is stamped. The 1 isn't spaced the same as the rest of the numbers, the depth of the stamp and the font are off. I can't imagine Springfield doing this kind of a job on the SN, guess to tell for sure you would need to look closely at the SN on another rifle in that range. Could someone have taken a low SN#, and added a 1 to it ??? That would make the entire rifle a hump job.
          Chris

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          • Chaz
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 765

            #6
            My Sporter, 1 344164, has a similar spacing between 1 and 344...

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            • Mike D
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 1031

              #7
              Originally posted by Chris W.
              What doesn't look right is the way the SN is stamped. The 1 isn't spaced the same as the rest of the numbers, the depth of the stamp and the font are off. I can't imagine Springfield doing this kind of a job on the SN, guess to tell for sure you would need to look closely at the SN on another rifle in that range. Could someone have taken a low SN#, and added a 1 to it ??? That would make the entire rifle a hump job.
              Chris
              Try and imagine each one of the serial #'s with the same size rectangular outline surrounding it.

              Mike

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              • Chris W.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 357

                #8
                OK, I buy that, but the font is still off. The 1 is like a l, no top or base to it ?? Can't imagine Springfield using a l instead of a 1. Sure could be though.
                Chris

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                • PhillipM
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5937

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chris W.
                  OK, I buy that, but the font is still off. The 1 is like a l, no top or base to it ?? Can't imagine Springfield using a l instead of a 1. Sure could be though.
                  Chris
                  It's right as it can be. The "1" is deeper due to the same force applied to the 1 as any of the other letters. Since the 1 has the least amount of surface area, it gets struck deeper.

                  Here's a similar situation with the spacing on a photo I found on the net.

                  Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                  "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                  • Chris W.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 357

                    #10
                    More I look at that, it might be right. Look at the 1 in the 1903 above the SN, it doesn't have the top and base either. It would stand to reason that Springfield would use the same in both. Price is sure good on that one, thinking about bidding.
                    Chris
                    Last edited by Chris W.; 07-02-2014, 02:31.

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                    • Herschel
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 973

                      #11
                      Unbelievable scenario. A man finds a low numbered 1903 with the same last six digits as an SRS listed NRA Sporter. He gets a die and stamps a one prefix to the existing serial number to make it match the SRS listed Sporter number. Then he gets correct barrel, rear sight, stock and barrel band to create the fake NRA Sporter. He then assembles them into a complete rifle and applies a rust blue finish that matches the original NRA Sporter finish. What are the odds that this could have been done? I would say virtually impossible. The subject rifle is legit. Too bad about the scope block holes that I think are aftermarket work.

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                      • Promo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 335

                        #12
                        Any opinions on the M1903 "star gauged" rifle he also offers for auction?

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                        • Rick the Librarian
                          Super Moderator
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6700

                          #13
                          Mismatched stock and a suspicious serial number engraving on the bolt. No thanks.
                          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                          --C.S. Lewis

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                          • dokcop
                            Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 87

                            #14
                            Probably stating the obvious, but don't the rather crudely drilled holes on the receiver and barrel more or less eliminate this rifle from serious consideration as a collectible?

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                            • Ed Byrns
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 161

                              #15
                              Springfield Sporters are like old Corvettes,they were played with a lot till they were found in 2014.
                              Yes,the stock is not original,nor the front sight.
                              But the rifle is otherwise solid and an excellent "HIT".
                              When bought,it was the original owners a prized possession,
                              and I believe the new owner will also consider it a Prized possession.
                              Respectfully
                              Ed Byrns

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