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  • JComer
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 19

    #1

    What year is this stamp???

    what years did they use SA over SPG in a box? thanks
  • 03Rifleman
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 35

    #2
    Stanley P. Gibbs, Chief Inspector Springfield Armory 1932 through 1938 (approximate)

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      I've been told more like 1936-1942. There was also a brief period post-war that Gibbs used his stamp on overhauled M1s.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • JComer
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 19

        #4
        Originally posted by Rick the Librarian
        I've been told more like 1936-1942. There was also a brief period post-war that Gibbs used his stamp on overhauled M1s.

        so if I am thinking correctly a faint SA SPG stamp on a finger grooved stock could be one of his Overhauled 1903's?

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #5
          That's correct, except for NM rifles (which would be a Type C stock).
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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          • RCS
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2180

            #6
            Post WW2 SA SPG

            The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

            Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
            2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

            Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stampP1010045_0041_041.jpg

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            • JComer
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 19

              #7
              Originally posted by RCS
              The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

              Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
              2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

              Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stamp[ATTACH=CONFIG]29710[/ATTACH]
              here is the stamp on a 1903 finger grooved stock

              pix318903899.jpg

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              • John Beard
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2275

                #8
                Originally posted by RCS
                The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

                Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
                2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

                Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stamp[ATTACH=CONFIG]29710[/ATTACH]
                RCS,

                The stamp in your photo is actually a third S.A./S.P.G. stamp. Stanley P. Gibbs used two different stamps prior to WWII. One with "fat" letters as you mention, and one with "skinny" letters, even skinnier than the ones in your photo. I trust the stamp in your photo appears on a post-WWII overhauled M1 Garand. If not, please describe what it appears on.

                Thanks!

                J.B.
                Last edited by John Beard; 02-02-2015, 08:48.

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                • RCS
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2180

                  #9
                  SA SPG cartouches

                  John, You are correct, the photo in my post is a post WW2 SA SPG stamp on a post WW2 rebuild M1 rifle.

                  Also have a photo from a 1903 "C" NM stock that has the drawing number D-1836 plus the original rifle # 1497163 which shows
                  another variation of the pre war SA SPG stamp

                  Second photo is an early gas trap no-trap stock with the pre war SA SPG stampP1010069_0053.jpgdscn1241.jpg

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                  • John Beard
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2275

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RCS
                    John, You are correct, the photo in my post is a post WW2 SA SPG stamp on a post WW2 rebuild M1 rifle.

                    Also have a photo from a 1903 "C" NM stock that has the drawing number D-1836 plus the original rifle # 1497163 which shows
                    another variation of the pre war SA SPG stamp

                    Second photo is an early gas trap no-trap stock with the pre war SA SPG stamp[ATTACH=CONFIG]29717[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]29718[/ATTACH]
                    Thanks for the photos!

                    Those are examples of the pre-WWII "fat-letter" and "skinny-letter" stamps. The post-WWII overhaul stamp in your earlier picture is a "medium letter" stamp (if I may coin a new phrase).

                    Thanks again for the photos!

                    J.B.

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