03a3 rearsenaled or not?

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  • milboltnut
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 432

    #1

    03a3 rearsenaled or not?

    Just picked up an 03a3.... matching barrel and receiver.

    Was wondering about the stock markings in front of the magazine.

    There's 4.

    89 in a square

    1 in a triangle

    11 in a circle

    5 in a circle

    Also an M in front of the Pressure Mark behind the trigger guard.
    For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
  • Johnny P
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 6260

    #2
    Not much to go on there. More to follow?

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      Most of the markings you list are those stamped during manufacture. I agree with JP we'd have to have more information, as well as some pictures.
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      • milboltnut
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 432

        #4
        the only other marking is the inspectors stamp FJA... what else do you need?
        Last edited by milboltnut; 02-14-2015, 11:10.
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        • Doug Douglass
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2264

          #5
          Pictures???

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          • Rick the Librarian
            Super Moderator
            • Aug 2009
            • 6700

            #6
            We can't really tell you much - An FJA is seen on virtually all M1903A3s. It is the inspection stamp of the Rochester Ordnance District. Frank J. Atwood (FJA) was the commander, not the inspector.
            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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            • Rick the Librarian
              Super Moderator
              • Aug 2009
              • 6700

              #7
              When you ask about identifying an overhauled rifle, it is extremely difficult with photos, as finish is one of the main identifiers.

              Serial number (at least the first few digits) and barrel date would be a start. Any barrel date after 12/43 or 1/44 is a sign the rifle was overhauled, but only one of them.
              "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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              • milboltnut
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 432

                #8
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                Last edited by milboltnut; 02-14-2015, 05:02.
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                • milboltnut
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 432

                  #9
                  I see the cutoff is off color... appears to be rearsenaled.
                  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

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                  • Punch the Clown
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 172

                    #10
                    Bolt for sure is re-finished. Can't really see enough of the other metal.

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #11
                      The barrel is original, but a lot of the rest appears to be refinished or a replacement. The Trigger guard is the earlier "small" bow.
                      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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                      • milboltnut
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 432

                        #12
                        I'm sure it is Rick....it definately seen minimal use though.

                        Just reading an artical from Canfield... the 1917's seen even less. My 17 has a JA replacement. According to his artical the 17's were used primarly for training and supplemental. For as bad as my barrel is i'm thinking it was used for training. I always wondered why the rest of the rifle was in as good a shape as it was compared to the barrel. Still shoots good though, can't center it... shoots off to the right, couple of inches high.
                        Last edited by milboltnut; 02-15-2015, 04:20.
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                        • Rick the Librarian
                          Super Moderator
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6700

                          #13
                          It may not have seen much "activity" since it was rebuilt.

                          M1917s saw quite a bit of action in WWII - they were used by the British, French, Chinese and Filipinos, to name but a few. You're also right that many saw use in training, as well.
                          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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                          • milboltnut
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 432

                            #14
                            the parkerization is too great a shape to see much activity at all. Did they repark as part of the rebuild?
                            Last edited by milboltnut; 02-15-2015, 05:15.
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                            • Rick the Librarian
                              Super Moderator
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6700

                              #15
                              Yep ...
                              "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                              --C.S. Lewis

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