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  • Kurt
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 488

    #1

    You don't see too many of these.

    I haven't personally seen one of these in the flesh, books, pictures etc, yes, but in person not until now. It's quite impressive I'll say that. This one is in a local gun shop and has been for sale for some time although it's tucked away and I never noticed it. I'm thinking Fred should jump on it! 1903 T 2 IMG_0187.jpg1903 T IMG_0186.jpg

    Kurt
    Last edited by Kurt; 02-26-2015, 12:05.
    As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."
  • Jeff L
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    • Aug 2009
    • 1984

    #2
    Nice!
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    • Fred
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4977

      #3
      Gosh, I don't know what I'd do with it since I don't shoot any more. I'll bet a widow brought it in. A lot of high end collectible guns are showing up lately. Probably how my stuff will end up.

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      • joem
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 11835

        #4
        Much too high for me but I'd sure like to have it.

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        • Kurt
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 488

          #5
          Yes, a whole lot of mullah for sure. You'd have to take the shelf out of the safe to get that long boy in there too. I don't think there were very many of those made, somewhere around a 100 or so. Kind of hard to find a price comparison as they just don't show up. I think I found one back a few years that sold for around $7500.
          As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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          • Cosine26
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 737

            #6
            The number 100 sounds about correct but I am unable to confirm it. . They were made with both a 28" and a 30 " barrel. The 28" barrels sold out first and in the DCM page it was indicated that no more "T'S" would be manufactured until all the 30 " barreled rifles were sold. The Armory also sold "T" barreled actions for $41.25, and barrels for $36.40.FWIW
            The were originally offer for sale in the February 1931 AR @ $85.00. In February of 1931 the DCM Notice in the AR indicated that there were still fifty-eight of the 30" T's available.
            According to Roy Dunlap, when the 300 H&H became popular, many owners converted them to 300 H&H>
            FWIW

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            • Kurt
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 488

              #7
              Cosine, You are correct as per Brophy's section on the Model T. Also according to him, there were approximately 20 of the 26" barreled rifles made. A couple other things of note, again quoting Brophy, the front sight band was from a modified BAR and the upper band was made from a cut and re-welded model 1917 lower band. The stock was a model 1922 hogged out for the larger barrel and stock bolts added. These were targeted at 200 meters and averaged 10 shot groups of 2 1/4 inches. Many had headless cocking pieces but not all.

              Your info is very accurate!

              Kurt
              As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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              • chuckindenver
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3005

                #8
                real deal, is on my list as a T
                if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                • Southron
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 150

                  #9
                  Well, the way I look at it is someone could probably make a "Quick Buck" by haggling down the shop owner to say $13,000.00 or $14,000.00 and buying the gun. Then putting it up for sale at Rock Island Auctions or a similar auction house. No telling what it would bring at auction. Also, before I would buy it from the shop, I would make darned sure that the rifle was correct and in the "correct serial number range" so I was confident I was buying an authentic piece and not a fake.

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                  • MoMallard
                    Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 43

                    #10
                    Is that the one at Great Northern Guns in Anchorage? If so, he came down about $4K from when I first saw it 2 years ago.

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                    • Kurt
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 488

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MoMallard
                      Is that the one at Great Northern Guns in Anchorage? If so, he came down about $4K from when I first saw it 2 years ago.
                      Yes, one and the same. They said the owner had dropped it 5k since consigning it. Not being familiar with any sales other than one or two several years ago, what kind of number would be appropriate.
                      As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                      • Promo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 335

                        #12
                        Just recently an original Target rifle (SRS listed) was sold for $4000 after being long advertised for $8000 by a dealer.

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                        • Kurt
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 488

                          #13
                          I wouldn't mind adding that to the collection if the price was right. I don't think the gentleman is all that interested in selling it..
                          As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                          • Cosine26
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 737

                            #14
                            Style T M1903 SRS
                            According to BROPHY, there were 100 Style T rifles manufactured. In the original announcement in the AMERICAN RFLEMAN magazine, it was announced that the rifles would be built with either a 28" or 30" barrel. BROPHY indicates that there were 26 built with 26" Remington barrels. There was never any mention of 26" barrels in the AR. My copies of the AR are complete from 1927 to date.
                            In the latest SRS U.S. MARTIAL ARMS COLLECTOR MAGAZINE, SRS advertises
                            "For sale $9,200.00
                            "Model 1903 T model with Winchester 26-inch barrel " Documented sales rifle with Springfield sales documents".
                            FWIW
                            Last edited by Cosine26; 03-06-2015, 07:36.

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                            • Kurt
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 488

                              #15
                              Brophy also writes that he owns a 26" model that's listed in the DMC records as a "special target" but is a model T. He also a 28" and 30" rifles as well, page 130 lower left column. He goes on to express his opinion on the listing records. I throw this out for discussion purposes.

                              Cosine, could you point me to the Remington barrels in 26" in Brophy?
                              As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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