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  • gnoahhh
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 100

    #16
    Around 15 years ago I had occasion to be dining at the Naval Academy here in Annapolis. Someone announced "Wake Island Marine on deck" as a gaunt old gentleman in a wheelchair was ushered into the Hall. Everybody stood up, and those in uniform maintained a stiff salute until he was at his dining table. I still get goose bumps when thinking about it.

    As a kid, one of our neighbors in a neighborhood we had recently moved into was a Bataan survivor. He spent most of his war in a POW camp on Mindanao, after a stopover in Cabanatuan. Started the war as a ground crewman at Clark Field, and became an infantryman in short order. He carried a .30 machine gun salvaged from a wrecked plane and claimed to have been a part of a ragtag outfit that disrupted a small Japanese landing behind our lines. Being on total disability, he had nothing better to do than sit on the porch and drink beer all day, after enough of which he would tell a vague story or two to us kids, usually the same one over and over. Imagine my surprise when I found a copy of "The Dyess Story", by Capt. Ed Dyess, in my dad's stuff and then when old Bill said "yeah, I knew him. Heckuva guy. He was my boss for a while." As a ten year old addicted to "Combat" on TV, I sort of lost interest in those dramatized stories after my first encounter with "the Real McCoy". He died by the time I was in Junior High. He couldn't have been older than mid-late 40's but he looked to be 70.

    At that time when my passion for WWII history was awakened, I asked my dad what he did in the war. He laughed and said "mostly scrap drives with the Boy Scouts. I was 11 when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor."

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #17
      Your friend was right. Capt. W.E. Dyess commanded the 21st Pursuit Squadron in the Philippines. When their planes were shot down or destroyed, most of the units were converted to provisional infantry. I talked to wrote to a large number of former USAAF guys and I have yet to run into anyone who didn't say that Dyess was the best leader they ever had. I knew Dyess' best friend, Sam Grashio, who came from my home town. He stuck close to Dyess during the Death March (Dyess had the chance to be evacuated but refused to leave his men) and, in April, 1943, he, Dyess and 10 others made the only large-scale escape from a Japanese POW camp. All but one man made it back to the States but Dyess, like many other "bright stars" of the AAF, was killed in a aircraft accident.

      Your friend was also right about fighting a Japanese landing on Bataan. The Japanese tried an amphibious assault. It was opposed by both Air Corps and Navy personnel who knew little of infantry tactics (A Japanese diary was picked up and the writer commented how tricky the Americans were - they would sit around, talk loudly and smoke cigarettes to get the Japanese to reveal their position! ). It wasn't until the tough Philippine Scouts arrived that the "Points" were eliminated. Dyess led an attack by boat on the Japanese positions that should have merited the DSC if not the Medal of Honor.

      When Dyess and the others came back to the U.S. they were told to keep their mouths shut about thje Death March, and it wasn't until 3 months after Dyess died that the muzzles were removed. Dyess' book was published and newspapers all over America told the news of the March of Death.

      I admire such men from the bottom of my heart!!
      Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 05-09-2015, 07:18.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • gnoahhh
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 100

        #18
        I know what you mean, Rick. Whenever I'm feeling like life is ganging up on me, I dig out one or another account of the defense of Wake or Bataan, and think " if those guys could tough it out against insurmountable odds, then what's a little adversity to me?"

        I would gladly trade everything in my collection for an '03 with solid provenance of having been used on Bataan or Wake.

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #19
          Originally posted by gnoahhh
          I know what you mean, Rick. Whenever I'm feeling like life is ganging up on me, I dig out one or another account of the defense of Wake or Bataan, and think " if those guys could tough it out against insurmountable odds, then what's a little adversity to me?"

          I would gladly trade everything in my collection for an '03 with solid provenance of having been used on Bataan or Wake.
          I share your sentiments 100%!! And I would also open my gun safe to anyone having such a rifle or pistol!!
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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          • Shooter5

            #20
            History wonders what if?
            -Cunningham had fought on - who authorized him to surrender
            -Pye, and others, resupplied Wake and kept up the fight
            (For that matter, What if Percival had not capitulated???!!! at Singapore) and who authorized him to surrender
            If Wake had fought on, perhaps the outcome would have been the same or maybe they could have held out until Jan or later and then be evacuated or reinforced, and then how would that have affected the early 1942 war?

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            • Finestkind
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 116

              #21
              There was a rescue fleet organized and I believe underway to Wake that was recalled. The admiral in charge was removed from his post and my understanding is that he never held another command. All of the commanders and crews were ready to take on the Japanese.


              Finestkind

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              • Finestkind
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 116

                #22
                There was a rescue fleet organized and I believe underway to Wake that was recalled. The admiral in charge was removed from his post and my understanding is that he never held another command. All of the commanders and crews were ready to take on the Japanese. This could have changed the entire course of the war or not have made any difference at all.


                Finestkind

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                • usmc69
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 887

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Finestkind
                  There was a rescue fleet organized and I believe underway to Wake that was recalled. The admiral in charge was removed from his post and my understanding is that he never held another command. All of the commanders and crews were ready to take on the Japanese. This could have changed the entire course of the war or not have made any difference at all.


                  Finestkind
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