Fake NS Bolt ?

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  • CptEnglehorn
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 293

    #1

    Fake NS Bolt ?

    Was someone drunk at SA one day or are we faking bolts now.



    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=487433053
  • dave
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 6778

    #2
    I would be more concerned about the rear sight! Bolt looks legit to me, try stamping those bolts by hand once. Be a wonder if you get an impression any where near that deep!
    You can never go home again.

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    • Fred Pillot
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 448

      #3
      I wonder what it took to fit the 1901 rear sight.
      Fred Pillot
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      • CptEnglehorn
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 293

        #4
        Didn't notice the rear sight, I stopped at the NS over WL3 Bolt

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        • pmclaine
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 2555

          #5
          I thought WL3 bolts were desirable in their own right. Shame.

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          • louis
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 419

            #6
            I would think that double stamped bolt is probably a collectors item. But forget that rear sight I'm sure they screwed up the collar modifying it to fit that 1901

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            • John Beard
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2275

              #7
              The rifle appears to be a Bannerman rifle assembled from scrap parts. The "N S" marking probably originated with Bannerman, who marked the bolt to make the rifle more saleable.

              J.B.

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              • mack
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1344

                #8
                Rifle appears to be in terrible condition. Also looks like they are covering a good many sins with a coat of oil or linseed oil rubbed over the entire exterior. Always a sure sign of a relic or a beater. Does the line in the stock indicate a repair of some kind or am I seeing things. The receiver is also rough with all the pitting. Not the finest example.

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                • joem
                  Senior Member, Deceased
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11835

                  #9
                  That's pretty rough for $950.00. Stock is rough and i wonder what's under the wood. Looke like stock is made of 2 parts kind of like the russians did on Mosins.

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                  • pmclaine
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2555

                    #10
                    John Beard nailed this one me thinks. Put together when parts were plentiful and money was scarce. A budget conscious shooter just wanted something to jack a deer now and than.

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                    • robh5
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 139

                      #11
                      Originally posted by John Beard
                      The rifle appears to be a Bannerman rifle assembled from scrap parts. The "N S" marking probably originated with Bannerman, who marked the bolt to make the rifle more saleable.

                      J.B.
                      Were the Bannerman rifles pre WW2? Isn't the stock on this for a 03A3? Just curious.

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                      • chuckindenver
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3005

                        #12
                        dont think its a bannerman,,, home built...A3 stock,
                        if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                        • John Beard
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by robh5
                          Were the Bannerman rifles pre WW2? Isn't the stock on this for a 03A3? Just curious.
                          Most Bannerman rifles were indeed pre-WWII. But I believe Bannerman may still have been in business after WWII. The stock on the rifle is indeed an M'03-A3 stock.

                          J.B.

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                          • Rick the Librarian
                            Super Moderator
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6700

                            #14
                            Yes, they were -- I remember seeing ads, small ones, for Bannerman until well into the 1960s in gun magazines. By that time, they were just selling a few parts.
                            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                            --C.S. Lewis

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