RIA question

[p246]

Looking at a RIA 1903 serial number 2358XX. Barrel RIA 7/13 which I believe is original. Stock is good no cracks but it is a single bolt stock. I thought 1913 would be a little late for a single bolt stock if its original to the gun or am I mistaken. Stocks got a few dings but no cracks.

He also had a SF 1903 serial number in 600,000 with a 1916 barrel also in a single bolt stock. This guns finish and stock were better but stock was sanded destroying all marks,,,,grrr.

[Rick the Librarian]

Rock Island M1903s had single bolt stocks from roughly 1908 to the end of 1913 production. Any inspection stamps on the stock? The stock should have a large 1/4" "S" stamped on the foretip.

[p246]

Yes the stock had the inspection stamps on the fore tip. There is a cartouche on the left side of stock under receiver but due to a dent and wear I could not read it. It had the serif P also. I thought the stock was legit but for some reason I thought 1910 or 1911 was when the second stock bolt went into production.

[Rick the Librarian]

The second stock bolt started about 1917, after production (at RIA) had restarted.

A correct inspection stamp for your rifle would be a CN/1913 in a box and in script.

Can you post pictures?

[Kragrifle]

Did RIA not produce rifles from 1913-1917?

[Emri]

Did RIA not produce rifles from 1913-1917?

No, they did not.

[Rick the Librarian]

They may have started producing parts, at least, in late 1916.

The reason for the shutdown was that it was felt that enough M1903s had been produced for the Regular Army and National Guard and that Springfield Armory could take care of anticipated future needs. Of course it turned out to be really bad timing because a few years later, the U.S. got involved in World War I and we needed all the rifles we could get. Worse, the workers who had jobs at RIA had scattered to the four winds and it took awhile to round up more. Conrad Nelson, for example, whose inspection stamp was on nearly all RIA M1903s of the pre-1914 era, got a job working at Eddystone, IIRC.

If you don't have CS Ferris' book on the Rock Island M1903, you should get it!!

[p246]

Have not bought it yet still a little apart on price. .....If I buy it I'll post plenty here. I don't have a single bolt stock 1903 so I'm trying to fill that gap. Course that only means there is another gap somewhere else.

[Fred]

Heck, I've only got five 03's. There's gaps all around me for 360 degrees. LOL

[p246]

Fred he had 32 to look at...Doesn't that equal 32 gaps.....Per my wife approving one was very generous....lol

[Fred]

I know, my wife has to give the OK on my acquisitions or it just ain't gonna happen.

[Ed Byrns]

RIA 1903 serial number 2358XX. Barrel RIA 7/13
sounds like an RIA /NRA rifle
Respectfully
Ed Byrns

[louis]

Hey Ed! You get the photos I sent you?

[p246]

RIA 1903 serial number 2358XX. Barrel RIA 7/13
sounds like an RIA /NRA rifle
Respectfully
Ed Byrns

Weren't NRA rifles in cut down stocks? This one is in a full military single bolt stock.

[John Beard]

Weren't NRA rifles in cut down stocks? This one is in a full military single bolt stock.

I am not Ed Byrns, but NRA rifles were in full military single-bolt stocks. The very last few were in 2-bolt stocks, but those are very rare.

Hope this helps.

J.B.

p.s.,

If you'll post or email me the complete serial number, I'll see how it fits in my NRA rifle data base. I concur with Ed that the serial number appears to fit.

p.p.s.,

There's a good chance that the SA rifle is also an NRA rifle.