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  • Calfed
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 734

    #1

    Sportered SC 03A3

    I bought a sporterized SC 03A3 with the intent to turn it into a 03A4gery (reproduction 1903 A4 sniper rifle)

    After bringing it home from my FFL and looking it over, it is going to be hard to take this apart. It is in great condition for a sporter...and has an SC 6 groove barrel, which is fairly rare.



    The metal is in great shape and the sporter stock is pretty nice too.






    The barrel has an ever so faint "1" in front of the 2 42 on the SC barrel

    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...
  • rhoward
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 11

    #2
    That is really nice. One could restore to "as issued" or do as you mentioned. Could look for one already drilled and tapped, easier and cheaper. But first, I would shoot it as is and see what it does.

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      I would be tempted to restore it to "as issued, too - that's a very early SC - kind of early to use for a 1903A4gery. That's what I would do.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • Calfed
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 734

        #4
        Originally posted by rhoward
        That is really nice. One could restore to "as issued" or do as you mentioned. Could look for one already drilled and tapped, easier and cheaper. But first, I would shoot it as is and see what it does.
        Originally posted by Rick the Librarian
        I would be tempted to restore it to "as issued, too - that's a very early SC - kind of early to use for a 1903A4gery. That's what I would do.
        Thanks, rh and Rick, I've thought about restoring it back to original condition...I've got most of the SC parts, even an SC stock that I picked up a few years back in a parts lot that I bought at an auction.



        But it has been drilled and tapped for the Redfield sight, so I would have to do something about those holes.
        Last edited by Calfed; 09-19-2015, 07:34.
        ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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        • louis
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 419

          #5
          Too nice for a reproduction A4. Won't take much to restore. There are a lot of decent sporters just look at the drilled out areas to be sure they were professionally done. It will save you some money. I've got one that I will be doing also. It's been drilled out sometime in its past. Just need to get it done. Have all I need for it. Nice rifle you've got there.

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          • louis
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 419

            #6
            About those holes. I've used JB weld on them. A Little at a time and they came out perfect with a little care in final finish. Can't tell there was a hole there.

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            • Sunray
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3251

              #7
              "...got most of the SC parts..." It's the horde of metal bits that are the most trouble to find. However, it's always going to be a rebuild/forgery no matter what you do. Bolt won't clear a scope either so you'd have to mess with that too. I'd leave as is.
              Spelling and grammar count!

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              • Calfed
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 734

                #8
                Originally posted by Sunray
                "...got most of the SC parts..." It's the horde of metal bits that are the most trouble to find. However, it's always going to be a rebuild/forgery no matter what you do. Bolt won't clear a scope either so you'd have to mess with that too. I'd leave as is.
                I hear what you are saying, guys. I'm torn about this...it does look great as is.

                However this will be the third sporter 03A3 that I've purchased for the 03A4gery project.

                The first one looked like a good prospect....already had the bolt turned down, correct Redfield scope mount, etc. The problem--it turned out to be a real 03A4






                Now I'm thinking that it might make sense to just restore it and not shoot it in any matches.


                The next one was a Smith Corona--had a Lyman rear sight and looked like a good prospect. The problem--a prior owner ground down the reverse dovetail for the rear sight. This one is all SC, at least for the parts that are left, and could serve as a donor for many SC parts.





                Now I have an SC that may be too nice to convert...LOL
                Last edited by Calfed; 09-19-2015, 11:08.
                ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                • louis
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 419

                  #9
                  Yes that's the problem with these rifles it's a non stop addiction. I wonder if the VA has a help line for this lol

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                  • Kurt
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 488

                    #10
                    Calfed, I feel your pain. I was looking for a receiver for a target rifle project and also ended up with 3 sporters, the first two I couldn't bring my self to do. The third worked out fine.

                    Here's number two, an SC original early 1943' with a 6 groove barrel, drilled and tapped for a scope. It shoots very, very well.

                    IMG_0949.jpg

                    The other was a Cabalas 03A3, crap stock and side mounted lyman 48 that was bent. It had a the nicest 2 groove original to the serial I've seen yet. Original finish, bolt, trigger guard etc. . I put that one in an A3 stock with hardware I had and replaced the sight with an original. That one shoots beautifully too.

                    Here's that one.

                    071.jpg

                    And lastly, here's what I made out of the third one; This was a Remington 03A3 with a 4 groove SC barrel. It was drilled and tapped for scope mounts and came with a nice Weaver K4 60B. The stock was ok, glass bedded from end to end. I had a McGowan 26" Heavy barrel I had picked up off flea bay with a best offer deal. I had an A4 bolt found in a sporterized Mark 1 some time ago that had been lightly polished and Chuck reblued for me. . The trigger guard is an SA milled with the stake marks, marine?. It has a SC follower in it to complete it's heritage sans RI. The stock is a Bishop stock I found on the internet. Unfinished and made for the heavy barrel profile. I had to do a lot of inletting on that one. The scope is a Night Force bought on model change deal of the week, the mount's are Weaver modified to take Leopold Picatinny rail rings, medium height.

                    IMG_3148.jpg

                    As I said Calfed, I feel your pain.

                    Good luck

                    Kurt
                    Last edited by Kurt; 09-19-2015, 09:22.
                    As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                    • Calfed
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 734

                      #11
                      Wow, Kurt, those are nice rifles.

                      Glad to hear that the 6 groove is a good shooter. There is so little information out there about the 6-groove, it is good to get something first hand.

                      That Cabela's rifle looks good too. Did you do anything about the holes for the Lyman sight?

                      The 03A3 McGowan is stunning. I bet that shoots great. Did you leave it 30.06 or choose a different caliber?

                      I've always had a thing for sported 03's and 03A3's, especially ones that have been turned into target rifles.
                      Last edited by Calfed; 09-19-2015, 01:32.
                      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                      • Kurt
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 488

                        #12
                        Thanks Calfed, I too love the sported ones and have several I picked up over time and simply kept the way I got them or improved on them with stock tweaking and optics.
                        The 6 groove SC's are very dependable, seem to shoot a wide variety of loads and do it well. I would have to say that's the edge over the 2 and 4 groove. I've found that they all shoot well if fed a diet they like, but the SC will eat just about anything. The only 4 groove I have that will come close to that is a sporterized SA 1903 with what John Beard called a "developmental" barrel. It has a heavier profile than the standard 03 SA barrel. My brother has a Rem 03A3 with a SC 6 groove, shoots very well too.

                        I plugged the holes in the Cabalas rifle with scope hole plug screws that the local Cabalas gave me a big handful of. They are not readily noticeable and the rifle finish is very nice and I wouldn't want to re park it as I probably will sell that one sometime this fall. Even if I wer planning on keeping it I don't think I'd do anything with those holes. The Lyman sight is nice, this one was abused and I sold it for parts to a guy on cmp that needed them for a 1922 project.

                        I love that McGowan, fun as hell to shoot and does it well no matter what I feed it. When I bought the barrel, the guy had ordered it 10 years ago and had it reamed for the 30-06. Kind of odd as it hadn't been threaded or anything but was chambered. The gunsmith who does that work here did ask if I wanted to give up some length and go with a 308. I decided against that as the mag would have needed to be blocked and I have a ton of stuff for the 06. I did have It blueprinted, the barrel face, the bolt face etc all squared. I bedded and free floated the barrel. The darn thing weighs around 15#s! The range master down at the range calls it the space gun. So far it's shooting 1/4 to 3/8 pretty consistently at 100 yards. Occasionally I pull one out of 5 and it opens up to 1/2 or 5/8ths. Pretty good for a stock trigger with a little polishing.
                        I've always had a hankering for something like this and for under $750 it's a winner.
                        As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                        • Calfed
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 734

                          #13
                          Do you shoot any of your rifles competitively? My sons and I shoot in a vintage military rifle silhouette match every month and it is a real ball

                          I've got a real addiction to 03's and 03A3's, especially the target guns. I've got several 1903'S that have been converted to the old style match configuration.

                          A Remington




                          A Springfield




                          And a Rock Island




                          Last edited by Calfed; 09-19-2015, 05:56.
                          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                          • Kurt
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 488

                            #14
                            I haven't shot competitively no. I guess I never had the time, either working, coaching soccer or both for many years. I am a hunter, have been for more years than I can count. I read an article not long ago which was rather interesting about hunters and target shooters and the different techniques and habits. With the eyes getting aged, I'm good with a scope and some peeps to a degree but I doubt competitive. Farsighted with astigmatism is a B.

                            The range we have here in town is a State owned 100 yard and doesn't have competitive matches. The nearest one is about 35 miles north and through the middle of town on top of that. I can well imagine you and you boys having a ball, nothing better.

                            I have more of these than I should, but shoot them all with the exception of one which I don't think has been shot since rebuild. I'm not sure I'd have that if I got into competitive shooting.

                            Those are some fine looking rifles, nice!!!!!

                            Here's the first 03 I bought, pretty much along the lines of your Rock I. It's a 3.3 mil Remington.

                            Remington 1903 Obreaovich.jpg

                            The other side of the Cabalas 03A3
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                            Last edited by Kurt; 09-19-2015, 07:03.
                            As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                            • Jackrabbitslim
                              Member
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 53

                              #15
                              Beautiful rifles!
                              "The men the American Public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who tell them the truth." HL Mencken

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