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  • bruce
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3759

    #16
    Have fun putting your 03-A4gery together! On target results will likely be good, maybe even very good! Principle advantage of the scope on a combat rifle is that one can get better field results. As developed the 03-A4 was not a no holds barred 1,000 yd. sniper rifle. Fact is, very few 1,000 yd. sniper rifles ever hit anything at 1,000 yds. in the field because no one gets sandbags issued to them, and most of the people on the receiving end are not cooperative enough to stand still and let someone have another go or so at them. Of course it's nice for the shooter when everything works out. The 03-A4 was like the M-1C and M-1D developed to meet the actual needs of men in the field. Apparently these rifles were used very effectively. Likely your 03-A4gery will give you very good results. Mine is a Remington 03-A3 w/ standard USGI barrel and a 2.5 Weaver in a scant stock. From sandbags... it is MOA using selected lots of HXP M-2. It is MOA using Winchester 150 gr. Soft-Point ammo, which is what I use when I take it out for a deer hunt. In the field it is extremely effective. I love iron sighted rifles, but that little Weaver really helps when shooting under poor light conditions. My last deer was shot w/ my 03-A4 at 140 yds. It was a nice doe that was jumping over a fence. Caught her right behind the right front leg. She hit the ground like a sack of potatoes. In good light the shot could have been made w/ a iron sighted rifles. In the very poor light of that early morning, that scope made the difference. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
    " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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    • Calfed
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 734

      #17
      Thanks, bruce

      I'm looking forward to putting this together and shooting it.
      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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      • PhillipM
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5937

        #18
        Originally posted by Calfed
        Thanks, Louis.

        The challenge is to keep the costs down. I got a good start on that...was able to glom this one for $185

        I've got bits and pieces, including a weaver K2.5 scope already. I've also got a NIW GI barrel. I'm kicking around selling it and buying a Criterion to mount on this. I've heard that the Criterion barrels are fantastic shooters and better than the older WWII made barrels.
        Chuckindenver, a Crierion dealer, once said he preferred short chambeted new ww2 barrels and use a match reamer.
        Phillip McGregor (OFC)
        "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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        • Calfed
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 734

          #19
          Originally posted by PhillipM
          Chuckindenver, a Crierion dealer, once said he preferred short chambeted new ww2 barrels and use a match reamer.
          Interesting. I'll re think whether to sell the NIW GI barrel to buy a Criterion.
          Last edited by Calfed; 12-05-2015, 04:55.
          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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          • PhillipM
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5937

            #20
            Originally posted by Calfed
            Interesting. I'll re think whether to sell the NIW GI barrel to buy a Criterion.
            I bet chuck would give you a good deal on a swap if you decide to get a Criterion
            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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            • pelago
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 582

              #21
              looks good, one thing that scares heck out of me is buying an auction receiver and finding that the scres that had been drilled by a drunken organ grinders monkey. done four of these and so far (knock on wood) has yet to happen. all the holes were drilled correctly and proper tap had been done. i get pretty good money when i uload them and they all shoot sub MOA at 100. with custom ammo

              what is fun is testing and shooting against some guy that has a real hot high dollar 300 magnum and can not get sub minute and ur there with a plain old 1003 A4gery
              Last edited by pelago; 12-06-2015, 09:45.

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              • Calfed
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 734

                #22
                Originally posted by pelago
                looks good, one thing that scares heck out of me is buying an auction receiver and finding that the scres that had been drilled by a drunken organ grinders monkey. done four of these and so far (knock on wood) has yet to happen. all the holes were drilled correctly and proper tap had been done. i get pretty good money when i uload them and they all shoot sub MOA at 100. with custom ammo

                what is fun is testing and shooting against some guy that has a real hot high dollar 300 magnum and can not get sub minute and ur there with a plain old 1003 A4gery
                Thanks, pelago.

                I do worry about what kind of job was done on the drill and tap. Hoping for the best.

                I've got several Mausers that shoot about 1 moa or a little better. One is a Persian and the other is an '09 Argentine



                On a recent trip to the range to check the zero on these rifles, the Persian shot a .9 MOA 5 shot group at 300 yards and the Argentine wasn't far behind...



                ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                • Rone
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 36

                  #23
                  Nice going C.F. I just picked up a sporterised 03A3 last week, waiting for it to get out of jail. Best part is only the stock ha been cut down, no drill and tap. Looks like 90% original park finish. Have all parts to return to military configuration. When I get it together we can go to the range and try it out. See u around. Ron P.S. ?Nice Mausers.
                  Last edited by Rone; 12-16-2015, 09:01.

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                  • Calfed
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 734

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rone
                    Nice going C.F. I just picked up a sporterised 03A3 last week, waiting for it to get out of jail. Best part is only the stock ha been cut down, no drill and tap. Looks like 90% original park finish. Have all parts to return to military configuration. When I get it together we can go to the range and try it out. See u around. Ron P.S. ?Nice Mausers.
                    Thanks, Ron! Great find on the 03A3. Putting it back into military configuration could be a lot of fun. Shooting it afterwards could be even more fun.
                    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                    • Rone
                      Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 36

                      #25
                      Before and after on my recent 03A3 sporter purchase.
                      Attached Files

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                      • Calfed
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 734

                        #26
                        Damn, Ron. That is a great transformation! Post a range report when you get a chance.
                        ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                        • Calfed
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 734

                          #27
                          The sported 03A3 arrived at my FFL and I started the 10 day "cooling off" period. It is a Remington , s/n 418xxxx. It is excellent shape, and looks like a good prospect for the "A4gery treatment".

                          One thing I hadn't noticed...the barrel is really short. I didn't measure it, but probably around 17 or 18". Bet the muzzle blast on that one is impressive.
                          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                          • Rone
                            Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 36

                            #28
                            You need help.......We need help.

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                            • Calfed
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 734

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rone
                              You need help.......We need help.
                              LOL...there is no help for what ails us
                              ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                              • lyman
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 11269

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Nate
                                Don't get all of this. I have an original A4 and a repro and both are crap as a sniper rifle. Those who have made these things have made junk. I have been lucky to own and fire 7 different WW2 sniper rifles and I will not bother to fire an A4 again. My favorite rifle now is a AR15 heavy barrel, with a trigger job and Leatherwood bullet drop compensating scope. With a Federal Gold Medal 69 grain round, it is 1 MOA at 300 yards and can hit any military target out to 600. Of course it does not hit that hard at 600. Did not mean to insult anyone.
                                only 1MOA? and scoped?
                                get some irons and learn the positions, and see what a good AR will do,

                                and comparing apples to oranges,

                                I have an 03 that shoots better than 3/4 MOA regularly at 100, no bedding, nothing special, just a mid 30's 03 and a scant stock (surely a replacement) and AP USGI type ammo,

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