Possible USMC? Oh, What To Do?

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  • Punch the Clown
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 172

    #1

    Possible USMC? Oh, What To Do?

    I have my heart set on a 1941 USMC replica. Anyway, I have the Unertl and have been looking for a donor rifle. I wanted one that was already drilled but then this one came my way. The rifle was literally filled with cosmolene-the GI stuff-not the CMP stuff. It has an 8-42 Springfield barrel with a mint bore. When I de-cosmo'd it I found the serial number on the bolt. The rifle is a mixmaster. The sloppy Hatcher hole is there as is that ugly gray park. I'm starting to think that I shouldn't drill and tap this one. If I knew for certain It was a Marine Corps rifle I probably won't. Any ideas? How about the stock markings?









    Last edited by Punch the Clown; 12-07-2015, 02:01.
  • Smokeeaterpilot
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 290

    #2
    The stock is a USMC specific contract stock, which I've commonly heard called a "J" stock. Not sure if that's appropriate nomenclature but it's a common nickname.

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    • Punch the Clown
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 172

      #3
      Originally posted by Smokeeaterpilot
      The stock is a USMC specific contract stock, which I've commonly heard called a "J" stock. Not sure if that's appropriate nomenclature but it's a common nickname.
      So is this thing looking like a USMC?

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        What you have shown, yes it is. If you're doing a clone, you may want to see if higher serial numbers were used on the snipers.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • Smokeeaterpilot
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 290

          #5
          Originally posted by Punch the Clown
          So is this thing looking like a USMC?
          It does possess some of the "USMC traits" you hear a lot of chatter about. Does it have the "vice marks" you hear about?

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          • cplnorton
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 2194

            #6
            Yeah don't drill this one. Even though they say they can be built on about any serial dating even back to WW1, almost all I have seen are in the 1.4 and 1.5 serial range. With the 1.49 and 1.52 being the heaviest.

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            • louis
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 419

              #7
              I totally agree with Steve. Hang in, keep looking at the sporterized 03's. I look on gunbroker often and there are a few high number drilled already. You have s really good rifle on your hands I'd keep it as is.

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              • chuckindenver
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3005

                #8
                couple things.
                does it have a funny T on the bottom of the barrel, just behind the front sight?
                is there a punch mark on the right receiver bolt rail?
                and what does the stock look like under the bolt handle?
                if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                • Punch the Clown
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 172

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Smokeeaterpilot
                  It does possess some of the "USMC traits" you hear a lot of chatter about. Does it have the "vice marks" you hear about?
                  No vise marks. No stippling on buttplate. I will say that as far as I can tell it was in it's cosmolene cocoon a loooong time. What it has is the park color, the Hatcher hole, the electro-penciled bolt, the stock (thank you smokeeaterpilot) and a '42 barrel.

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                  • Punch the Clown
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 172

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckindenver
                    couple things.
                    does it have a funny T on the bottom of the barrel, just behind the front sight?
                    is there a punch mark on the right receiver bolt rail?
                    and what does the stock look like under the bolt handle?
                    No T, no punch, nothing unusual under the bolt handle.

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                    • Randy A
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 615

                      #11
                      Is it a scant or a C stock?

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                      • Punch the Clown
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 172

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Randy A
                        Is it a scant or a C stock?
                        Regular "S" stock.

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                        • Mike D
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1031

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Punch the Clown
                          Regular "S" stock.
                          Without finger grooves, correct?

                          Mike

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                          • Smokeeaterpilot
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 290

                            #14
                            To my knowledge the stock in question was only produced straight without GG.

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                            • PhillipM
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5937

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Punch the Clown
                              .... The rifle was literally filled with cosmolene-the GI stuff-not the CMP stuff. ...
                              Just a minor point, the CMP stuff you allude to on the 1903's returned from Greece although often referred to as cosmoline, was just plain axle/bearing grease.

                              If you drill that rifle I will hunt you down and bludgeon you with my hardbound copy of Hatcher's Notebook.
                              Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                              "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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