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  • Phil McGrath
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 213

    #1

    Smooth trigger?

    Some time ago I was digging threw a pile of 03 parts at the fun show and found a nice smooth faced 03 trigger the sear is also unmarked, I liked it and thought it was neat. So for the risky sum of $5.00 it came home with me. I then slipped it in, I know that "feel" is subjective, but for some reason it does have a wider feel on the pad of the finger than the std. serrated triggers face does. The trigger pull was unchanged, just as clean as before.

    I remember some time way back that SA, serrated there triggers then stopped, and resumed again. Anyone remember what time frame it was? and by chance were any NM rifles fitted with a smooth faced trigger and if so how could I tell about what time frame was it made maybe? The serrated trigger measures .197 thick and the smooth one measures .200 thick and fills the gap in the trigger slot near seamlessly.

    I still have the stock serrated trigger and sear both S stamped in my box-o-parts.
  • John Beard
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2275

    #2
    Answers are as follows:

    (1) Late 1918 through 1921.

    (2) Yes. Pre-1910 NM rifles were fitted with thin smooth-faced triggers.

    Hope this helps.

    J.B.
    Last edited by John Beard; 01-20-2016, 08:50.

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    • PhillipM
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5937

      #3
      All pre 1910 triggers are smooth and taper to a fine point. They were beefed up because the hardening process resulted in cracking problems
      Phillip McGregor (OFC)
      "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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      • Phil McGrath
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 213

        #4
        Thanks, Guy's.

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        • Fred
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 4977

          #5
          Originally posted by PhillipM
          All pre 1910 triggers are smooth and taper to a fine point. They were beefed up because the hardening process resulted in cracking problems
          I didn't know that. Thanks!

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          • John Beard
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2275

            #6
            Originally posted by PhillipM
            All pre 1910 triggers are smooth and taper to a fine point. They were beefed up because the hardening process resulted in cracking problems
            With all due respect, I believe the triggers were beefed up for grooving. The thin pointed triggers did not groove well.

            J.B.

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            • Phil McGrath
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 213

              #7
              Am I correct too say that RIA didn't make a smooth faced trigger? The trigger/sear I scooped up isn't pointed, I'm happy too have pinned down a time frame.

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              • John Beard
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2275

                #8
                Originally posted by Phil McGrath
                Am I correct too say that RIA didn't make a smooth faced trigger? The trigger/sear I scooped up isn't pointed, I'm happy too have pinned down a time frame.
                No, you would not be correct to say that RIA didn't make a smooth-faced trigger. RIA made thin pointed smooth-faced triggers prior to 1911 and thick smooth-faced triggers beginning in late 1918. The trigger you scooped up may very well be an RIA trigger.

                J.B.

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                • RCS
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2180

                  #9
                  Rock Island early trigger

                  I have a few photos of my early Rock island s/n 64145 with a RIA 3-07 dated barrel. I believe the trigger and sear are
                  original to this rifle.P1010023_0019.jpgP1010028_0024_1.jpgP1010018_0014.jpgP1010015_0011.jpg

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                  • John Beard
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2275

                    #10
                    RCS,

                    I concur. Nice rifle! Thanks for sharing!

                    J.B.

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                    • PhillipM
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5937

                      #11
                      Originally posted by John Beard
                      With all due respect, I believe the triggers were beefed up for grooving. The thin pointed triggers did not groove well.

                      J.B.
                      With no supporting evidence than my memory of a forum post here many years ago, I'll concede the point.

                      Pardon the pun, my friend!
                      Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                      "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                      • John Beard
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2275

                        #12
                        I actually have in my collection a grooved thin pointed trigger. The trigger is reminiscent of my cat that has five pointed ends! SA apparently grooved a few thin pointed triggers before "a light came on" and they came up with a better idea to thicken the trigger.

                        J.B.

                        p.s.,

                        Are you comin' to the smokin' in March? Don't forget, "You can smell [their] butts for miles!"

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