97 Year Old Scam Uncovered

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  • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7450

    #1

    97 Year Old Scam Uncovered

    I do a lot of reading of old material, and ran across these two tidbits in the same periodical from 1918. I referenced the first tidbit in a post below this one. Interesting story, and published in an official Marine Corps periodical. Got to be true, right? I try to validate items I find like these, but I ran into a problem.



    The problem, or stranger in the woodpile, is the second article. Same bunch, the USMC recruiting corps, published it. I wanted to verify the story, but low and behold, there is no record of Sgt. Bennett receiving a DSC in any record I can find, including Catlin's book, in which he states he was pulled to safety by a Frenchman. In his detailed account, found in "With the Help of God and a Few Marines", he never mentions a Sgt. Bennett. Also in his book, he records all the Marines who received awards for valor at Belleau Woods. No mention of the man who "saved" him. If one checks the Muster Rolls, there is a Sgt, S. Bennett in the 6th Regiment HQ, but he is a chauffeur, not a sniper. There is also a Pvt. P. J. Murphy, but I have found no record of his wounding as described. The story appears to be total BS. Either the Corps made it up, or Sgt. Bennett made it up and the Corps published it. Either way, it is good reason to suspect what you read.



    Like the internet, anyone can write anything down on paper. jt
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  • Darreld Walton
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 632

    #2
    You CAN'T be implying that Marines would be involved with embellishing or "imaginative" story telling!!! Say it ain't so!

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    • PhillipM
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5937

      #3
      "closest friend in the ARMY"?
      Phillip McGregor (OFC)
      "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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      • John Beard
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2275

        #4
        So Private Jordan traipses out into No Man's Land (only a Marine would traipse out into No Man's Land undefended), kills a Boche sniper at 1500 yards (which is almost a mile), traipses one mile across No Man's Land (again undefended), recovers the Boche's rifle, and counts the notches in the stock.

        Remarkable!

        Got any more bedtime stories?

        J.B.

        p.s.,

        And I neglected to recognize that Private Jordan traipsed the one mile back across No Man's Land to tell the story. And with a wounded leg, no less.
        Last edited by John Beard; 02-13-2016, 02:01.

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        • Phil McGrath
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 213

          #5
          That's why there called sea stories, most often they start off with this ain't no BS I know a guy that was there......

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            And much of the Battle of Belleau Wood was written by Wylie Post, before the battle started. It was years before anyone wondered how Wylie knew about what happened AFTER he was shot through the head and carried off the battlefield (he survived.)

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              No sh*t, there I was...
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7450

                #8
                Damn, guys. I was hoping one of you would prove me wrong!

                You all don't think a Marine would lie, do you? I am appalled; I say, I am appalled!

                jt

                PS
                French War Cross for bravery?

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                • CPC
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 365

                  #9
                  And I thought they only started doing that in WWII... I might want to go back and check that halls of Montezuma, and shores of Tripoli thing... maybe the marines were not even in mexico or at the battle of derne!

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CPC
                    And I thought they only started doing that in WWII... I might want to go back and check that halls of Montezuma, and shores of Tripoli thing... maybe the marines were not even in mexico or at the battle of derne!
                    They were in both Mexico and Tripoli. In Mexico, they were selected to guard the city because of their fancy uniforms. At Tripoli. they accompanied a Greek mercenary force hired by the American Consul in Cairo.

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                    • Sunray
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3251

                      #11
                      Not likely the CEF would have discharged him for being a few months under 18. He'd have been sent to the rear for 4 months then back to The Regm't. Hordes of troopies were underage.
                      Spelling and grammar count!

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                      • 1mark
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 390

                        #12
                        You see the problem, the metric system (yards) was not understood in the US in the early 1900's and was misinterpreted as 1500 feet.
                        "Three people can keep a secret as long as two of them are dead" Mark Twain

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                        • PhillipM
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5937

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 1mark
                          You see the problem, the metric system (yards) was not understood in the US in the early 1900's and was misinterpreted as 1500 feet.
                          The metric system wa designed in the enlightenment and the meter was based off the enlightened's determination of the Earth's circumference. Then it turned out they were off in their measure, but went with it anyways. In reality a meter is no more enlightened than a foot based on a king's foot. To cover the embarrassment, they changed the definition to a wavelength through something or other I'm not looking up.
                          Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                          "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PhillipM
                            The metric system wa designed in the enlightenment and the meter was based off the enlightened's determination of the Earth's circumference. Then it turned out they were off in their measure, but went with it anyways. In reality a meter is no more enlightened than a foot based on a king's foot.
                            Particularly if he hasn't changed his socks in a couple of months.

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                            • scosgt
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 673

                              #15
                              Brian Williams was wounded there, just before he was awarded the Medal of Honor. Twice.

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