Red Star M1903 "oddballs"

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  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #1

    Red Star M1903 "oddballs"

    About 7 years ago, I had the chance to examine a large number of "Red Star" M1903s. Virtually all of them (almost! See below) were in the 3,053,000 range or less. However, there were two "exceptions to the rule".

    1) A correct Remington M1903 in the 3,136,000 range, significantly higher than nearly all of the rest. By all appearances, this is a total correct mid-range Remington M1903. Note, especially, the "spread RLB" instead of the boxed RLBs on the other rifles.







    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #2
    2. This was without doubt the most unusual. As you can see, not a Remington at all, but a mixmaster Springfield in the 221,000 range. It had the red band, as do the others. It had an AV barrel and a Rock Island stock. I nor the owner had no idea how this rifle got mixed in with the others. To my knowledge, this is the ONLY non-Remington M1903 which was included in the 200 rifles Will Levin imported. There still are two more crates of rifles that have not been opened. Who knows what waits within??







    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
    --C.S. Lewis

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      For you "math wizards" who are interested in statistics, I have 145 of the 200 Red Star rifles listed with at least the serial number - they are broken down as follows:

      1) 3,020.000 or less: 7 rifles

      2) 3,020,000-30,000: 11 rifles

      3) 3,030,000-40,000 : 43 rifles

      4) 3,040,000-50,000: 51 rifles

      5) 3,050,000-55,000: 29 rifles

      In addition, there are the two rifles pictured above, plus the following:

      -- 3,089,452
      -- 3,090,031

      (neither of the above rifles were observed - apparently sold long ago).

      Obviously, there is no way of knowing if this was the ratio of M1903s the British received or not.
      Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 03-24-2016, 05:25.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • 1mark
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 390

        #4
        Nice work Rick. So how does one go about buying a Red Star?
        "Three people can keep a secret as long as two of them are dead" Mark Twain

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #5
          Originally posted by 1mark
          Nice work Rick. So how does one go about buying a Red Star?
          PM sent
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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