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  • BEAR
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 436

    #1

    W.E.S.

    I have a grasping groove "S" stock that I have had for many years. I could find no stamps except a "P" stamp behind the trigger cutout. Last night I had a florescent table light on and I spotted a very faint W.E.S. stamp on the left wrist. When I turned off the lamp I could not see it and I can't get a picture.
    Question: Is this a Springfield or Rock Island stock and is there a listed inspector W.E.S. (okay, okay it was 2 questions)?

    Thanks
  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #2
    Springfield - the inspector is W.E. Strong. It was thought at one time that the inspector worked there (or at least used his inspector stamp) during WWI but I've since seen WES on several pre-WWI stocks from the 1908-1910 period, as well. Picture attached below- a stock mounted on a 1920 SA M1903.

    PA020022.jpg
    Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 06-23-2016, 09:02.
    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
    --C.S. Lewis

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    • Sunray
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3251

      #3
      W. E. Strong at Springfield.
      Spelling and grammar count!

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      • Johnny P
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 6260

        #4
        Don't know if it is the same person, but a W. E. Strong was assigned to inspection duties at Colt in 1916 while the regular inspector, Frank Hosmer, was temporarily assigned to San Antonio Arsenal. Mr. Strong would have been a Springfield Armory employee.

        Probably what you are seeing is where grease and grime got into the fibers of the wood from the original stamp, and even though the stamp is gone the discoloration in the wood remains. Some almost look like an ink stamp.

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #5
          That would make sense, Johnny - To my knowledge, Strong's stamp isn't seen on M1903s in that period when he may have been at Colt. It shows up relatively "early" and then again, during WWI. Maybe he got recalled when war started.
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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          • BEAR
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 436

            #6
            Originally posted by Johnny P
            Don't know if it is the same person, but a W. E. Strong was assigned to inspection duties at Colt in 1916 while the regular inspector, Frank Hosmer, was temporarily assigned to San Antonio Arsenal. Mr. Strong would have been a Springfield Armory employee.

            Probably what you are seeing is where grease and grime got into the fibers of the wood from the original stamp, and even though the stamp is gone the discoloration in the wood remains. Some almost look like an ink stamp.
            Yes, it does give the impression of being inked on. The surrounding box does not show at all. The "W" is only half visible and the the "E" is mostly a guess (although the spacing between letters is equal). The "S" is the clearest of all the letters and the periods are all visible.
            The stamp is located in the same area as Rick's photo.
            Thanks for all the replies.
            Last edited by BEAR; 06-23-2016, 02:28.

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