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  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #16
    It looks modified to me. Here's a picture of the NM stock on my 1370112 rifle.

    It will interesting to see if it still has any markings, especially underneath near the butt swivel.P1060304.jpg
    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
    --C.S. Lewis

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    • Calfed
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 734

      #17
      Originally posted by Rick the Librarian
      It will interesting to see if it still has any markings, especially underneath near the butt swivel.
      I think that will tell the tale.
      Last edited by Calfed; 08-09-2016, 03:46.
      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #18
        Since the front sight blade was changed or modified, anything else could be too.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • twh
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 224

          #19
          image.jpgHere's a picture of that area on mine which is serial numbered about 1500 below yours. Its the comb of the stock that looks off to me.

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          • Randy A
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 615

            #20
            First impression I got was the sharp angle of the grip cap and the abrupt front on the comb. Almost like the whole butt is situated higher than a standard C stock. I think JB is right, but it's still a darn nice looking rifle.

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            • Calfed
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 734

              #21
              Thanks, guys.

              I'll just have to wait for it to arrive to give it a close inspection. California has a 10-day "cooling off" period after it arrives at my FFL, but I can look it over and take pictures when it arrives.
              ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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              • PhillipM
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 5937

                #22
                I wouldn't sweat it, somebody made it fit them better.

                I bought a LEAD 513T stock off this forum modified in the comb and love the way it fits.

                Enjoy your nice rifle!
                Last edited by PhillipM; 08-14-2016, 02:19.
                Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                • Calfed
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 734

                  #23
                  Thanks, Phillip.
                  ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                  • Calfed
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 734

                    #24
                    The 03A4 and 1903Nm arrived at my FFL and I got a chance to give them the once over. Unfortunately, it will be a few weeks before I can bring them home due to Cali's infamous 10-day "cooling-off" period.

                    The stock seems to be a Springfield "C" stock, with possibly some work done in the comb area. There is a number on the buttstock, but not the serial number. There are "S's" stamped in the magazine cutoff cutout.







                    Buttplate appears correct



                    Barrel is excellent, measures a "0" on the CMP muzzle gauge, and has the star gauge mark.



                    The bolt is lightly electro penciled with the serial number.
                    Last edited by Calfed; 08-19-2016, 04:55.
                    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                    • Randy A
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 615

                      #25
                      Nice, much better pics than the sellers, I'd say she's good to go.

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                      • Cosine26
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 737

                        #26
                        The number on the stock confirms what I thought it was in my original post- a stock that had been modified in the pistol grip area. After studying the new pictures (which I might add are very good) I could offer many conjectures, but One good fact by an expert would be better than a hundred conjectures from me. As you indicated in your original post, someone has identified it as a DCM sale as an NM M1903 sold on 9/8/1938. It is a beautiful rifle. I do not have any idea what the altered stock will do to the value. I think that it would be well worth while to join SRS and get a letter. I did for my NM M1903.
                        FWIW

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                        • Calfed
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 734

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Randy A
                          Nice, much better pics than the sellers, I'd say she's good to go.
                          Thanks, Randy. I took th epictures on the floor of my FFL's place of business. I'll take better pictures when I get it home.


                          Originally posted by Cosine26
                          The number on the stock confirms what I thought it was in my original post- a stock that had been modified in the pistol grip area. After studying the new pictures (which I might add are very good) I could offer many conjectures, but One good fact by an expert would be better than a hundred conjectures from me. As you indicated in your original post, someone has identified it as a DCM sale as an NM M1903 sold on 9/8/1938. It is a beautiful rifle. I do not have any idea what the altered stock will do to the value. I think that it would be well worth while to join SRS and get a letter. I did for my NM M1903.
                          FWIW
                          Thanks, Cosine26! I subscribed to the US Martial Arms Quarterly and SRS this afternoon. I'll be ordering a letter on this and apparently the SRS has a copy of the original sales ticket, which I will also get.
                          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                          • Rick the Librarian
                            Super Moderator
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6700

                            #28
                            Can I ask what you paid for it?
                            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                            --C.S. Lewis

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                            • Cosine26
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 737

                              #29
                              Hi RTL
                              On another forum he indicated that he paid $2400.
                              FWIW

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                              • Roadkingtrax
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 7835

                                #30
                                Next time you look at it, get a good picture of the barrel date/ flaming bomb. I'd be curious what it might show.
                                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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