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  • milboltnut
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 432

    #1

    M1917 mag follower

    why is the left side middle rib cut the way it is?


    Last edited by milboltnut; 03-18-2017, 07:39.
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  • fjruple
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 175

    #2
    That is so the magazine follower depressor can slipped in for doing the manual of arms (inspection arms). The bolt will not close without the magazine follower depressor.

    --fjruple

    edit-- Added "without" The brain was not working right when I posted the response.
    Last edited by fjruple; 03-20-2017, 05:39.

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    • milboltnut
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 432

      #3
      you mean allow the bolt to be closed without depressing the follower.. looking for a demonstration of the depressor...
      Last edited by milboltnut; 03-19-2017, 12:19.
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      • JimF
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1179

        #4
        Originally posted by fjruple
        That is so the magazine follower depressor can slipped in for doing the manual of arms (inspection arms). The bolt will not close with the magazine follower depressor.

        --fjruple
        Huh? . . . . .

        The purpose of the depressor is to ALLOW the bolt to close during the "manual"!

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        • milboltnut
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 432

          #5
          ooops I had to read it again. It should allow the bolt to be closed without depressing the follower.
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          • Dan Shapiro
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 5864

            #6
            Later on, "Bubba" overcame this problem by filing down the rear of the follower from a 90% angle to a more rounded design that permitted the bolt to push the follower down as the bolt was pushed forward.

            Same with the weak 'ejector spring'. "Bubba" came up with a way to replace the weak ejector with a small piece of spring (like that you'd find on a ballpoint pen).
            Last edited by Dan Shapiro; 03-19-2017, 02:12.
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            • milboltnut
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 432

              #7
              I have the ejector with the spring.... eventually those ejectors are not going to be pleantiful.
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              • fjruple
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 175

                #8
                Originally posted by Dan Shapiro
                Later on, "Bubba" overcame this problem by filing down the rear of the follower from a 90% angle to a more rounded design that permitted the bolt to push the follower down as the bolt was pushed forward.

                Same with the weak 'ejector spring'. "Bubba" came up with a way to replace the weak ejector with a small piece of spring (like that you'd find on a ballpoint pen).
                It least "Bubba" got the weak ejector spring fix right. The small spring ejector fix was what Remington used on their commerical Model 30 series rifles and carbines.

                --fjruple

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                • p246
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2216

                  #9
                  Was the weak ejector spring a left over from the pattern 14 design. I have not pulled my P14 bolt down to see if it's the same spring. Obviously the extractor is different, wonder if they kept the same spring from the rim design.

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                  • JB White
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13371

                    #10
                    Same weakness prone flat spring for the ejector. I think the coil spring retrofit was a common fix as I've seen them used in quite a good number of 'veterans rifles'.
                    As far as the follower rib is concerned, I've always been under the impression the rib design was to control left/right loading and feeding.
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                    • milboltnut
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 432

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JB White
                      Same weakness prone flat spring for the ejector. I think the coil spring retrofit was a common fix as I've seen them used in quite a good number of 'veterans rifles'.
                      As far as the follower rib is concerned, I've always been under the impression the rib design was to control left/right loading and feeding.
                      I've always been under the impression the rib design was to control left/right loading and feeding
                      You don't shoot the 1917 much do you?
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                      • JB White
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13371

                        #12
                        I've owned them since the late 70's. Not my main interest though. Shoot them on occasion and had the job of keeping the Post rifles clean for about the last 15 years. Those rifles have ground followers. Have never bothered with the depressor as I've never had any desire for all the accoutrements.

                        So, are you going to politely set me correct so i might learn something, or is the snipe good enough?
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                        • milboltnut
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 432

                          #13
                          If you load the magazine you would notice the cutouts have nothing to do with feeding.

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                          Last edited by milboltnut; 03-20-2017, 11:21.
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                          • JB White
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13371

                            #14
                            Well the next time I dig one out I'll look again to see which way the rounds stagger in the magazine.
                            In spite of your somewhat condescending reply, I thank you for showing me a good pic of the depressor. I've never bothered to take a good look at one before.
                            I think the only time I had seen one was a line sketch. Probably in an old Numrich catalog. Before they became GPC since that's how long its been since I ordered one.
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                            • milboltnut
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 432

                              #15
                              As far as the follower rib is concerned, I've always been under the impression the rib design was to control left/right loading and feeding
                              So you have actually seen it to make a statement like this...

                              I've never bothered to take a good look at one before.
                              Well the next time I dig one out I'll look again to see which way the rounds stagger in the magazine
                              Again that has NOTHING to do with the "ribs"

                              But you said..
                              I've always been under the impression the rib design was to control left/right loading and feeding
                              so you did see the rib, but you don't know what they are for...does that make any sense? Or are you just tryin to cover up your tracks?

                              Please don't round and round and think you know what you are talking about... please stay from this thread, unless you do know what you are talking about.


                              So, are you going to politely set me correct so i might learn something, or is the snipe good enough

                              Sorry I can't politely correct you... due to the fact that you can't listen to the correct reason for the "ribs"... and the snipe got your attention, so no the snipe isn't good enough because you are continually saying the ribs are about staggered feeding....

                              the next time I dig one out I'll look again to see which way the rounds stagger in the magazine
                              Last edited by milboltnut; 03-21-2017, 07:50.
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