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  • RC20
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 174

    #16
    FJruple:

    As near as I have been able to determine, there were not a lot of surplus barrels made for 1917s in WWI.

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    • fjruple
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 175

      #17
      Originally posted by RC20
      FJruple:

      As near as I have been able to determine, there were not a lot of surplus barrels made for 1917s in WWI.
      RC20--

      A lot of surplus barrels is really a subjective term. The US Army Ordnance had enough to build 20,000 additional rifles from spare parts in addition to replacing barrels on M1917 rifles that improperly preserved after WWI. This created a shortage of replacement barrels for spare parts. Given the fact that a little over 2 million of the rifles were built in WWI plus the US had to support the 200,000 M1917s that were shipped to the Philippines in 1935 a shortage could very easily take place. Additionally the US had to supply spare parts for M1917 provided under Lead Lease so it does not take long to go through a lot of barrels quickly especially given the fact that corrosive priming was used in our ammunition at the time. Another perfect example would be the massive rebuilding program for the M1 rifle after WWII in the late 40's.

      --fjruple

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      • RC20
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 174

        #18
        The experts I have asked about this found no evidence that contract called for extra barrels as a parts suite as was done in WWII.

        WWII they recognize that not only barrel but major spare part orders would be part of a package so extra barrels were made under those contracts by SC and Remington.

        None have reported other than an occasionally find of a barrel in NOS condition in the original wrapping.

        Dates and the rifles with barrel match up well. Some clearly were taken apart on salvaged barrel put on either by gunsmith or possibly military if a receiver was found damaged and barrel still good. Obviously this did not take place in any number other than run on parts.

        There was massive amount of repair, there were major efforts to clean barrels that failed and when opened up found to have rusted on out.

        That was when contract were let to mfg new barrels by RI, JA and HS.

        No date on if they inspected before shipping got the Philippine , China and UK.

        As each mfg was in full production of thousands of rifles each a month, the impetuous of production would indeed have had surplus receivers and barrels.

        Agreements were made to finish up some and terminate others which then result in some receivers and barrels not finished though evidence from a gun I know of says production went beyond the stated.

        There are notes extra rifles were shipped to Philipes for spare parst as there were none.

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        • musketshooter
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 521

          #19
          Original barrels were 5 groove left hand twist. JA barrels were not dated. No one has mentioned RIA replacement barrels. They are 4 groove right hand twist. The 2 groove barrels shoot at least as good as 03A3 2 grove barrels.

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          • fguffey
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 684

            #20
            Originally posted by musketshooter
            Original barrels were 5 groove left hand twist. JA barrels were not dated. No one has mentioned RIA replacement barrels. They are 4 groove right hand twist. The 2 groove barrels shoot at least as good as 03A3 2 grove barrels.
            Musketshooter, I was not going to say anything but there was a forum that had members that were infatuated with measuring the diameter of 5 groove barrels, the last time I checked the forum was so rude they shut it down. And then there was the other problem, they could not decide the diameter of the barrels.

            F. Guffey

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            • RC20
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 174

              #21
              What is the point? We are discussing and clarifying. Bringing up another site has no relevance.

              We know what the diameter of the barrels is.

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              • fguffey
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 684

                #22
                Originally posted by RC20
                What is the point?

                We know what the diameter of the barrels is.
                I suggested you were talking about something you have never seen. If "We know the diameter" tell me what the diameter of the two barrels, inside and out and then explain why the two stocks are not interchangeable.

                F. Guffey

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                • RC20
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 174

                  #23
                  So, what is the measurement of a P14 barrel? At the fat part and the end. OD.

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                  • fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 684

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RC20
                    So, what is the measurement of a P14 barrel? At the fat part and the end. OD.
                    I said the P14 barrel is a SA barrel. I have my doubts everyone has two or three of them; it seems if anyone on this forum had one they would have already measured it.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • RC20
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 174

                      #25
                      Then it stands that unless otherwise noted, the original barrels are the same profile.

                      SA? Springfield Amory? Savage?

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                      • fguffey
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 684

                        #26
                        [QUOTE=RC20;523190]Then it stands that unless otherwise noted, the original barrels are the same profile.

                        SA? QUOTE]

                        Skinny A$$

                        F. Guffey

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                        • RC20
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 174

                          #27
                          Ahh a comedian. Good luck with the career.

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                          • fguffey
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 684

                            #28
                            Originally posted by RC20
                            Ahh a comedian. Good luck with the career.
                            The stocks are different, the barrels are different.

                            Then it stands that unless otherwise noted, the original barrels are the same profile.
                            I can not believe owners of P14s are scarce on this forum. I have at least 7 P14 barrels, I have access to 250 more. When comparing the P14 to the M1917 barrel the P 14 is like comparing a 98 Mauser to a 03 Springfield. The Mauser is a skinny barrel.

                            F. Guffey

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                            • RC20
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 174

                              #29
                              So Mr. G, give us the dimensions? Rear profile, how far the breach extends and diameter at the end, barrel diameter where it narrows, how far that is from the rear, diameter at the end.

                              Or is the intent to just keep it to yourself so you can say I told you so?

                              I am happy to be corrected and learn. I have often posted things I have found out for the knowledge of the community as a whole. That is what the forums are supposed to be about.

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                              • fguffey
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 684

                                #30
                                Or is the intent to just keep it to yourself so you can say I told you so?
                                I have given up on working with you, starting over everyday should not be necessary. I am assuming you can not help yourself.

                                I suggest you purchase a take off barrel for a P14.

                                F. Guffey

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