100 years old

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The wife and I drove to Phoenix, AZ in April and saw the effects of the wind, especially in Texas. Amarillo has to be the wind capital of the US. We saw wind generators all along I 40 and several trucks that were blown over and laying on their sides. I'd like to see how much windage adjustment would be required to hit an 800 yard target in that wind.

The nice thing about reloading is the chance to experiment. I tried a variety of bullets in my M1917 and 03-A3 and the original military style 150 gr full metal jackets seem to work the best. I tried both flat based and boat tails and I seem to shoot more accurately with boat tails. The 1944 Enfield No. 4 Mk1* does better with the 150 gr full metal jacket flat based bullets.

Very true on reloading. I live close enough to Sierra to drive over and get their seconds. Most are close in weight but the ogive length is all over the place. I separate them by ogive length and use the longer ones in my 1917 and 03A3. The short ogive bullets go in the FN FAL. This is on the 168 grain SMKs. The longer the ogive equates to a longer bearing surface. My bolt guns love that. The FN does not seem to care, but is also not as accurate. I also buy the FB 150 grain seconds but they all go to the FN. I do the same thing with the 303 buying their 174 HPBT's. They work well in the No 4's and in one No 1 that has a really good bore. The older or more worn No 1's do not like the HPBT's. I have found all but one shoot the 180 grain FB seconds just fine. The No 1 that will not shoot the 180's won't shoot anything well. The bore is pitted. I have been going to try cast but keep running out of time. If you've ever been to Sierra its kind of neat to walk in and buy bullets by the pound and watch them dip them out of 30 gallon cans, only to be fed one at a time to 100 year old work horses.

[Fred Pillot]

I have Remington s/n 9441. I believe it spent some time in Canada. Bought as surplus from gun store in the late '80s.

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I have Remington s/n 9441. I believe it spent some time in Canada. Bought as surplus from gun store in the late '80s.

Fred my 1917 is Canadian marked to. Most of the red paint has worn or probably been cleaned off the nose. There is some red paint residue but one has to look for it. The stock and receiver have the C/broad arrow mark. WWII lend lease that came back home.

[Merc]

I have Remington s/n 9441. I believe it spent some time in Canada. Bought as surplus from gun store in the late '80s.

Nice pick! Really early serial number. It was made in November, 1917.

[Merc]

My Winchester Model of 1917 US Army rifle turned 100 years old today, November 15, 2017. I celebrated by taking it to the range and firing off a few rounds. The old war horse performed well, as usual. There were a few hunters at the range zeroing their modern rifles and they all had to handle and admire my '17.

[dave]

The 1917 (and the original model adopted by the Brits) Enfield is based on the 1898 Mauser rifle design, and so is any modern bolt rifle I can think of!

[Merc]

The 1917 (and the original model adopted by the Brits) Enfield is based on the 1898 Mauser rifle design, and so is any modern bolt rifle I can think of!

Correct. Ever wonder how much and how long royalties were paid to Mauser.

[Dan Shapiro]

Ever wonder how much and how long royalties were paid to Mauser.

Mauser sued the US Government when they came out with the '03. The lawsuit was held up by WWI (amazing how long cases can be dragged out in court). The lawsuit went all the way to the US Supreme Court after WWI. The Court awarded Mauser $6 million. Then consider, Mauser originally offered to settle the suit with the US for about 1/2 million.

[dave]

Ever wonder how much and how long royalties were paid to Mauser.

Mauser sued the US Government when they came out with the '03. The lawsuit was held up by WWI (amazing how long cases can be dragged out in court). The lawsuit went all the way to the US Supreme Court after WWI. The Court awarded Mauser $6 million. Then consider, Mauser originally offered to settle the suit with the US for about 1/2 million.

Where did you get this info from. I know we paid so many cents for each stripper clip up to a certain amount, and about 200,000 for something else. The 03 was copied from the 1893 Mauser, with some changes to avoid patent infringements, but it did not do so in a couple instance