M1917 Barrel Trivia

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  • Cosine26
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 737

    #1

    M1917 Barrel Trivia

    M1917 Barrel Trivia
    During WWII two companies made replacement barrels for the M1917 according to General Hatcher in the March 1947 AMERICAN RIFLEMAN Magazine’s, ‘Dope e Bag ‘ column”
    Hi-Standard (HS) made 61,250 – 4 groove barrels
    Johnson Automatics (JA) made 81,571 – 2 groove barrels
    FWIW
  • Bob in WA
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 55

    #2
    I have a new RIA marked 1917 barrel.

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    • Cosine26
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 737

      #3
      I have heard of those but have never seen one. Is it 4 groove? Is it dated? I have no onformtion on how many were made.
      Last edited by Cosine26; 03-02-2014, 05:09.

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      • chuckindenver
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3005

        #4
        Winchester made replacement barrels dated 9-19
        if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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        • Devil Dog
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 450

          #5
          Were all the Rem, ERA, WRA barrels 5 groove?

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          • jjrothWA
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1148

            #6
            Yes the WWI barrels were modified from British spec to handle the Cal.30 ammo.
            WWII barrels were made for both the 03 and 17 to the upgraded spec of _two groove rifling as it allowed faster manufacturing and meet accuracy sped.
            HS did make barrel for the 17 only ( careful, I had been known to be wrong! ) using the four-groove specs.

            Did see in 2005 a Rem 17 with a "19" date Win barrel. Didn't buy it for I didn't have the cash.
            Last edited by jjrothWA; 06-13-2014, 07:50. Reason: oldhiemers kicked in!

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            • Bob S
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 315

              #7
              Originally posted by jjrothWA
              Yes the WWI barrels were modified from British spec to handle the Cal.30 ammo.
              British: Bore diameter .303, Groove depth .0055

              US: Bore diameter .300, Groove depth .0050.

              Resp'y,
              Bob S.
              Resp'y,
              Bob S.

              USN Distinguished Marksman No. O-067

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              • Bill Wylde
                Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 79

                #8
                I saw this thread the other day and remembered that I had a new 1917 barrel somewhere in the piles. It is a five groover, marked Eddystone, with a date of 12-18. There are other markings if a photo would help anyone.

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                • Pentz
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 103

                  #9
                  I just found a mint, uninstalled 5-groove Winchester 1-19 barrel. A 95-yr old virgin. The rifling cutter marks are visible, the lands razor sharp. It's going on a D&T'd Winchester action for a modified military cast bullet match rifle. I will size a little over groove diameter - Can't wait to see how it will shoot.


                  Last edited by Pentz; 06-24-2014, 10:50.

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                  • BudT
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2508

                    #10
                    My HS barrel is the best shooting 17 barrel I have seen. If I do my part it will put five together that I can cover with a 5 cent piece. If memory serves correct it is a 4 grove WWII production barrel.
                    I DDUW BO'R DIOLCH

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                    • Fred Pillot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 448

                      #11
                      I checked the Johnson barrel on my Remington M1917 and it is a 4 groove.
                      Fred Pillot
                      Captain
                      San Jose Zouaves
                      1876

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                      • Rick B
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 717

                        #12
                        Anyone have a close up of a Johnson Barrel as this appears to be one but I want to compare a good shot of the Flame. I see what looks like a light stamp "A" top and I put it on my early 4 digit. Rick B


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                        • mwt
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 16

                          #13
                          Three rounds fired at 200 yards yesterday with Remington rebuild with JA 2 groove. The only limitation on mine is the "nut" pulling the trigger

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                          • Fred Pillot
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 448

                            #14
                            Here are images of the flaming bomb on my 4 groove JA barrel that is on my 4 digit Remington.
                            Attached Files
                            Fred Pillot
                            Captain
                            San Jose Zouaves
                            1876

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                            • RC20
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 174

                              #15
                              I checked mine. Its a two grove.

                              The bomb looks like the rest.

                              The P is on the eft side of the barrel and at 90 degrees counter clockwise to what the Ferris picutre of the RIA P would be, same general locaiton distance wise from sight.

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