Who made this one?

[mannparks]

Long and short of it is ,two mkI 2nd mkI had a *. 1916 bolt and bbl change.
MkII rifles were aft 1939 went through the weedon repair.
A suggestion would be to buy Charles. Stratton book vol. 4 ,way more info.

Charles

[pickax]

Now you have me intrigued. Was there actually such a thing as a Pattern 14 Mark I rifle and, if so, was there ever a Mark II? Also, it seems that the Brits went back and forth on the "Pattern" nomenclature versus "Number" (as in Number 4 Mk 2). Does anyone here know if there was any logic behind this or was it just bureaucratic inconsistency?

Here's an excellent article I found by Marc Gorelick. He uses multiple source references.

http://www.vgca.net/education/TheUKPattern13_14USM1917Historyver09_2014-09-17.pdf

[mannparks]

Interesting article where did you find that ? I would like to obtain a hard copy

[pickax]

I found it doing multiple searches trying to find info on a Canadian LL winchester 1917.
The link looks to be in PDF format, which should be printable. If not maybe be try to contact the Va. gun collectors association.
It is very comprehensive, I don't have a printer, or I would try it myself. Let us know if you can print it and I will forward to someone to print for me.
Brad

[mannparks]

Yeah OK thanks very much I think that it is printable ,I'm just cheap and I'm trying to save Ink. I'm just wondering were Mr. Mark gorlic


found this information ,it looks like it's a government pamphlet
I'll try to contact Mr. Gorlich through the website of the Virginia gun owners .

Charles

[pickax]

Scroll down to part 6. Numerous books and Government manuals listed as sources. So it's not a government pamphlet.
I notice C.S Ferris book isn't listed,probably printed after this. Also supposed to be excellent. I've got one on order.

[IditarodJoe]

The link looks to be in PDF format, which should be printable.

It is in .pdf format. Keep in mind that you can just hit the Download button on your browser and download an electronic copy to save for your files.

[pickax]

It is in .pdf format. Keep in mind that you can just hit the Download button on your browser and download an electronic copy to save for your files.

That worked fine, thanks!
I see you're not in Maine anymore. I grew up there and still go for summers, but hate the taxes.

[dave]

The early 1917's were stamped with the initials also, not many tho before they went to the full maker name. I have only seen one and I have looked at a lot of '17's. It was a Win. stamped WRA. Guy wanted 500 when they were going for 2-250. I passed!

[Promo]

This is not correct. The early Winchester M1917s were stamped with "US" over "W" over the serial number. The early Remington rifles were stamped as follows (I've once saved the attached picture). I however can't speak of the Eddystone, but since they were a Remington plant I'd assume the same.

[dave]

Its been a long time since I saw it but still think it was WRA. I cannot make out what your pic. reads! MODEL OF 1917, REMINGTON? The very early 1917's were stamped the same as the Brit. P-14s were.
Where is the serial number?

[Promo]

This is M1917 from Winchester, S/N #1 from the SA collection:


The one I've attached picture of reads "US Model of 1917" over "Remington" over "4", where #4 is the serial.

You're wrong when saying the early 1917s were stamped as the British P.14 rifles.

[dave]

Well, guess I am wrong, I can't argue with pictures. The one I saw must have only had a W on it, been 15-20 years, my memory is not what it used to be! The Win.'s were marked with one letter, the Remington's with full name? How were the Eddystone marked?

[RC20]

It might have been a 303 P14 you saw.