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  • Calfed
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 734

    #1

    Another Travesty!

    I know this is going to drive some collectors up the wall, but here goes...

    Last year I glommed a beautiful Persian Mauser that someone had drilled and tapped. I knew it had no collector value, but it was priced accordingly and I was interested in using in the "open" class at a military silhouette match that my sons and I shoot in.



    Understand that I couldn't do this to a unmolested mil surp myself. Since someone else had already done the dirty work, I could not restrain myself. I finally used it in a couple of the matches and the Persian did pretty well.

    Ever since I found this one, I've wanted an Argentine Mauser in the same condition. Well, today I glommed the Ayotollah's South American cousin at an on-line gun auction...



    Hoping that this is as good a shooter as the Persian. Better pics when it arrives.
    Last edited by Calfed; 09-09-2014, 09:15.
    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...
  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #2
    Nice rifle. I recently saw 7.65 surplus selling in a large volume, but cannot remember where. I know that Samco has cases of 7mm for sale as well as 8mm.

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    • Calfed
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 734

      #3
      Thanks, Fred.

      I reload for these and have gotten good results from IMR 4064. I use 45.0 grains with a 200 gr Nosler Custom Competition in the 8mm and 40.0 grains with a 174 grain SMK in the 7.65.
      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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      • jon_norstog
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3896

        #4
        What a beautiful rifle someone butchered! Well, the toothpaste is out of the tube on that one.

        jn

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        • Calfed
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 734

          #5
          I'm no fan of D&T'ing a nice surplus rifle, and would never do that myself, but I do have a use for these.

          I've attached the match results from last month's vintage military rifle match. If you scroll down to the "open prone" class, you can see the Persian ran with the best of the other military rifles...beating a number of K31's, Swedish Mausers, and M39's, all of which were also scoped. These are the cream of the crop in accuracy in surplus rifles and the Persian bested them. Ultimately I lost in a shoot off with a buddy who was shooting a scout-scoped Swedish M38, but only after each of us shot 10 rounds. And only then, when the match director had us start shooting off hand.

          Ultimately both my buddy and I were beaten by a scoped Finnish 28/76 target rifle.


          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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          • Shooter5

            #6
            Originally posted by Calfed
            I know this is going to drive some collectors up the wall, but here goes...

            Last year I glommed a beautiful Persian Mauser that someone had drilled and tapped. I knew it had no collector value, but it was priced accordingly and I was interested in using in the "open" class at a military silhouette match that my sons and I shoot in.




            Understand that I couldn't do this to a unmolested mil surp myself. Since someone else had already done the dirty work, I could not restrain myself. I finally used it in a couple of the matches and the Persian did pretty well.

            Ever since I found this one, I've wanted an Argentine Mauser in the same condition. Well, today I glommed the Ayotollah's South American cousin at an on-line gun auction...




            Hoping that this is as good a shooter as the Persian. Better pics when it arrives.
            Neato, wondering how it will do, have you shot groups with it yet?
            PS: I am sure you are aware...when the 1930s contract was negotiated, the Shah of Iran was in power not an ayatollah.
            Last edited by Guest; 03-21-2013, 09:26.

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            • Calfed
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 734

              #7
              Shooter, I shot some groups during load development.

              Found 45.0 and 45.5 grains of IMR 4064 with a 200 grain Nosler CC bullet grouped pretty well, but have had problems with fliers. I intend to refine the load once powder becomes more available.

              45.0 grains


              45.5 grains
              ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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              • Shooter5

                #8
                What the...! You don't need any more load development! Those flyers are trigger pull or the like. Take it to a match! What scope/reticle are you using on it?

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                • Calfed
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 734

                  #9
                  I've got one of those Bushnell 10x40 Elite 3200 mil-dot scopes on it.

                  Here it is in fighting trim...


                  This is one reason why it shoots well
                  Last edited by Calfed; 09-09-2014, 09:16.
                  ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                  • Shooter5

                    #10
                    I put the same scope on a Sako Quad. They must have cleaned those rifles immediately after shooting or didn't shoot them much to have such nice bores.

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                    • gulliver62
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 190

                      #11
                      Give the girls new life! You can't undo what has been done but you can make the best of it and at a reduced cost.

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                      • Calfed
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 734

                        #12
                        The scoped '09 Argentine arrived at my FFL today and I got a chance to look at it before it went into his safe for the 10 day "cooling off" period.

                        In great condition, very nice bolt turn down and stock cut out for the bolt handle, Bore is sharp and shiny, bluing is excellent. Everything matches down to the cleaning rod.

                        I hate to say it, but it looks like someone took an "unissued" 09 Argentine and drilled and tapped it.

                        Better pics when it gets out of jail.
                        ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                        • mike webb
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1735

                          #13
                          I don't know what would possess a man to do that to a practically mint military rifle. There are plenty of butchered rifles around if you have an urge to scope one and take it to the range. The workmanship on these old mausers in absolutely incredible. From a time when highly skilled hands could be had for extremely low wages. A comparable rifle produced today would set you back over $2000 per unit.

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                          • Calfed
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 734

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Shooter5
                            I put the same scope on a Sako Quad. They must have cleaned those rifles immediately after shooting or didn't shoot them much to have such nice bores.
                            I honestly believe that this is one of those unissued Persian Mausers that Samco sold a few years back...it is that nice.

                            The Argentine Mauser is in about the same condition.

                            I used the Persian at another match last Saturday...the vintage silhouette match...and scored the highest score out of the 54 shooters (well 44 shooters with 10 shooters shooting 2 rifles). There were 13 shooters in the "open class" (vintage rifles with scopes), including Swiss K31's, Swedish Mausers and 03's and 03A3's, all scoped. The Ayatollah whipped all comers with a score of 38/40
                            Last edited by Calfed; 04-22-2013, 06:52.
                            ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                            • Shooter5

                              #15
                              As should be expected; those Czechs know how to build rifles!!
                              Of course, well trained and practiced with decent ammo to boot also helps!
                              Take it out to 500 and print it on paper, I am curious to see how well it can group.

                              Here is a Persian Mauser in Mess-O-potamia: shown in their more common configuration = beat.
                              Last edited by Guest; 04-24-2013, 06:47.

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