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  • joe

    #16
    I posted some pics, and I appreciate any info you could provide. Thanks

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    • kcw
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1173

      #17
      The commerical proof mark in pic #2 indicates that the "Stahl Mantel Geschoss" (St.M.G.) or steel jacketed bullet used in the proof charge weighed in at 18.55grams. As you don't indicate a stamping showing the weight of the powder in the proof charge, it can be assumed that the rifle was made after 1912 or so. The double set triggers are commonly seen in guild G.I. bringbacks. Frankly, I've never seen a guild rifle without set triggers.
      With no commerical maker mark on the receiver this is very likely a "guild rifle". Mauser, and it's licensed manufacturers, sold finished (in the white) receivers bearing no commerical markers marks to the guild industry. Commercial code stampings on the underside of such receivers indicate which company made it. It's possible too that the receiver could be a well sanitized surplus WWI receiver. Such receivers will bear Imperial German military production stampings on their underside.
      The quality of guild guns varied considerably in the execution of the gunmakers art. Buyers pretty much got what they paid for. Functional rifles of lesser finish quality were made to supply the growing German middle class between the wars. I would think that if a dealer offered you $800 then you likely have a decent, quality piece. Many guild makers placed no maker mark of their own on their guns. The maker could be determined, if required, through the proof stampings on the underside of the barrel. such markings would trace the gun back to the proofhouse and the appropriate proof registration books kept there.

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      • da gimp
        Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 10137

        #18
        appears to be a solidly built Mauser guild gun, with non matching #'s. She oughta shoot pretty well, MidWayUSA had dies & brass for it, expect to pay a premium for non standard(other than 7mm & 8mm) bullets & brass.If you do your part, she'll do hers. What is your rear sight? folding express leaf by chance? Were there ever scope bases installed?

        da gimp
        be safe, enjoy life, journey well
        da gimp
        OFC, Mo. Chapter

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        • dave
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 6778

          #19
          Mine is a mannlicker stocked 20"barrel carbine, built on what looks like a WW1 Kar 98 action (small ring). checkered stock, butt plate has entwined S's plastic or some such. No name on rifle but all the usual barrel stamps. Sorry, can not do pics on the internet, a skill I have not learned.
          You can never go home again.

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          • joe

            #20
            Originally posted by da gimp
            appears to be a solidly built Mauser guild gun, with non matching #'s. She oughta shoot pretty well, MidWayUSA had dies & brass for it, expect to pay a premium for non standard(other than 7mm & 8mm) bullets & brass.If you do your part, she'll do hers. What is your rear sight? folding express leaf by chance? Were there ever scope bases installed?

            da gimp
            It has a folding rear sight. All the serial #'s match on the bolt, receiver, barrell, and safety. Thank you for your help.

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            • ncblksmth1
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 322

              #21
              Anybody ever heard of Herm. Wen Rauch? Thats whats on the bottom of my barrel.

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              • mike webb
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1735

                #22
                Could it say Hermann Weihrauch? He began a sporting rifle company in 1899 in the town of Zella-Mehlis, Germany. They manufactured things there from 1899 until 1945 when the Soviets took over that part of Germany and they were thrown out of their factory. His descendants make the high velocity air rifles,Weihrauch brand still sold.
                Last edited by mike webb; 09-04-2011, 05:17.

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