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  • cwbuff
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 275

    #1

    Questions about M1 Captain's Helmet

    I have 2 questions about this fixed bail M1 Captain's helmet (pics below). 1) Does anyone know what the "K-4999" markings on the inside of the lid refer to?, and 2) How common are captain's helmets like this one that have metal bars instead of painted bars?
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  • Ltdave
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 587

    #2
    the K-4999 is a laundry mark (lack of a better term) that identifies the helmet to someone who's last name begins with a K. i dont remember where the numbers came from. when i was in the Air Force (considerably Long after this helmet was used) we used the last 4 of our SSN which was our S/N...

    the metal bars might have been put on for parade or garrison use. you obviously realize this is an OLD M1 helmet with the fixed bails so maybe that has something to do with it. maybe also, the particular unit the Captain was in, dictated that to be the method of ID (think Patton in his "uniforms will be uniform" mentality)...

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    • m1ashooter
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 3220

      #3
      Nice M1.
      To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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      • unc81
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 19

        #4
        The 4 digits are the last 4 digits of the Captain's serial number. In WWII, this was an assigned #, not his Social Sccurity #.

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        • JohnMOhio
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1545

          #5
          Agree with unc81. When i was in , 59 to 63, the AF was still using that method. First letter of individuals last name and the last 4 numbers of his assigned serial number. I have to assume other branches of the military used the same method during that time. We were provided a rubber stamp and an ink pad to mark all of our military clothing and equipment for identification.

          John
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          • cwbuff
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 275

            #6
            Thanks for the great information. Not knowing what it meant was driving me crazy for years. Here are couple more pics of the helmet and liner.
            IMG_1358..jpgIMG_1343..jpg
            "Man is not free unless government is limited." -- Ronald Reagan

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            • John Sukey
              Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
              • Aug 2009
              • 12224

              #7
              On that note, how many of you remember your serial number? RA16516196

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              • noslack327
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 582

                #8
                Ra16856700
                Last edited by noslack327; 01-02-2013, 07:55.

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                • Ben Hartley
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 616

                  #9
                  096647
                  05008841

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                  • oldtirediron
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 242

                    #10
                    The "K" is the first letter of the last name; the 4 numerical digits are the last 4 digits of the soldiers serial number! Simple and easy to decipher!!

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                    • Ltdave
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 587

                      #11
                      Originally posted by John Sukey
                      On that note, how many of you remember your serial number? RA16516196
                      3xx-xx-xxxx social security number lol...

                      i still have my rubber stamp and ink pad for putting laundry marks on my uniforms...

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                      • dave
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6778

                        #12
                        AF16433003 (non-SS#)
                        You can never go home again.

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                        • Dan Shapiro
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5864

                          #13
                          RA18847225 Sir!
                          "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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                          • JimW in Ore
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 635

                            #14
                            I believe it to be the last for digits of the persons SERVICE NUMBER, not serial number. This is what I was told upon entering the service. Serial numbers are on weapons. FR19672477
                            Last edited by JimW in Ore; 05-05-2013, 05:48.

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                            • Art
                              Senior Member, Deceased
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9256

                              #15
                              Nice helmet. Does the liner have a little hole center front. If it does it may be original to the helmet. Original liners with the webbing and swet band intact can be almost as valuable as the helmet!

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