Iraq War-era flak jacket?

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  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #1

    Iraq War-era flak jacket?

    Had somebody tell me a Flak vest, circa Iraq War -era they had given to them. My guess is about 2002-2003 era. Classified as "Body Armor, Fragmentation, Protective Vest" made by Isratek. The usual "forest camouflage. Still has the armor sections in it. Maybe excellent condition, but not new.

    1) Is it legal to own?

    2) Approximate value?

    3) Can it be sold?

    I can probably post some pictures, if that would be helpful. Posted -- see below:





    Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 04-12-2010, 11:25. Reason: added pictures
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  • Dan Shapiro
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 5864

    #2
    Each state has different laws concerning ownership (in Kaliforina felons can't own it). I've seen prices in the area of $175-$195. Far as I know, it can be legally sold.
    "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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    • JBinIll
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 5608

      #3
      Can you post pictures of the nomenclature markings or tag with the stock numbers?These are rather scarce with the armor included and very saleable in the XL and larger sizes.The small and medium not so much so.
      A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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      • Rick the Librarian
        Super Moderator
        • Aug 2009
        • 6700

        #4
        It is a size medium. I'll take some pictures and post them tomorrow.
        "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
        --C.S. Lewis

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        • JBinIll
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 5608

          #5
          I believe but am not certain that the DLA number indicates it was made in 1991.

          I don't think there are any laws preventing ownership on these.A fragmention protection vest is not considered bullet proof for most purpose if I understand correctly.Maybe light handgun calibers but not full power rifle loads.

          A friend who was in VN related the story of how one of the door gunners was hit by AK fire which penetrated the front of the vest,came out his back,hit the vest armor and riccocheted back into him leaving him pretty well shot up.
          Last edited by JBinIll; 04-13-2010, 03:47.
          A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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          • C5M1
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 608

            #6
            Seen a Vietnam era flak jacket in a surplus store in Washington state, early 80's. Someone had taken the outer and inner shell off and used it for a center fire handgun penetration test. All the bullet holes were marked with a magic marker. Looked like it stopped everything up to and including the 44 magnum. The very last layer of the vest just barely trapped the 44 mag slug. Would of put a bad hurt on anyone wearing it.

            Know someone over in Star Valley Wy. did a penetration test on same style vest with a 22 magnum. Penetrated both sides.

            regards, dennis

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            • LanceS4803@aol.com
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 58

              #7
              DLA100-91-D-0385
              Defense Logistics Agency buying center 100. Contract awarded in fiscal year 1991.
              Not body armor as we now know it to be, but more a "flak" vest for stopping shrapnel. Jagged edges catch in the interior material, stopping them.
              Used in Iraq up to at least 2004 when the new SAPI plate carrying armor started to be fully fielded.

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              • JBinIll
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 5608

                #8
                Originally posted by LanceS4803@aol.com
                DLA100-91-D-0385
                Defense Logistics Agency buying center 100. Contract awarded in fiscal year 1991.
                Not body armor as we now know it to be, but more a "flak" vest for stopping shrapnel. Jagged edges catch in the interior material, stopping them.
                Used in Iraq up to at least 2004 when the new SAPI plate carrying armor started to be fully fielded.



                Is there any way to determine a year date for manufacture using the Stock or DLA numbers?I'm trying to put together some VN War period field gear for my collection.Or am I confusing the usage of DSA and DLA numbers if there's a difference.

                Edit:From information posted on the U.S.Militaria forum the DLA prefix was in use from 1978 thru 93.It then went to an SPO prefix.
                Last edited by JBinIll; 04-14-2010, 07:35.
                A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                • JBinIll
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5608

                  #9
                  Do't know what this one is worth but a VN War period fragmentation vest sans armour just sold on another Forum for $10 after being marked down fron $15.
                  A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                  • LanceS4803@aol.com
                    Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 58

                    #10
                    JBinIll,
                    The contract would have been awarded to Isratex in FY 1991 (1 Oct 1990 to 30 Sep 1991). Delivery would have been anytime after 1 Oct 1990. Isratex may have a small supply on hand of recent manufacture and then went into production to complete the order.
                    I would say this vest was made in 1991.

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                    • JBinIll
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5608

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LanceS4803@aol.com
                      JBinIll,
                      The contract would have been awarded to Isratex in FY 1991 (1 Oct 1990 to 30 Sep 1991). Delivery would have been anytime after 1 Oct 1990. Isratex may have a small supply on hand of recent manufacture and then went into production to complete the order.
                      I would say this vest was made in 1991.

                      Thanks for the info,much appreciated.
                      A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                      • Master
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 3

                        #12
                        Hey i have the same jacket ... in exelent shape and it has the users manul tucked in behind the big tag on the inside ... my manul says "*1981" in big numbers inside the front cover .

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                        • Master
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 3

                          #13
                          If you want i can scan the whole booklet for you so you can make your own replica booklet ...... I think the booklet is the coolest part of the whole vest ...

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                          • Master
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 3

                            #14
                            my vest has 05 stamped inside it .... i was thinking it was used in 2005

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                            • alibi
                              Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 94

                              #15
                              Isratex Inc. DLA contractor code 040996514
                              59 Scholes St., Brooklyn, N.Y. 112061808

                              Contract DLA100-91-D-0385 was opened in April 1991 with estimated completion date of December 1991, contract amount was $43,078,000
                              Product code 8470 Armor Personal.

                              Contract modified January 3, 1992 -$100,000 estimated completion date March 15, 1992
                              Contract modified March 9, 1992 +$54,483 estimated completion date March 15, 1992
                              Contract modified April 21, 1992 -$306,627 estimated completion date April 30, 1992
                              Contract modified May 22, 1992 +$51,699 estimated completion date May 12, 1993

                              These contract modifications are not explained in the record but apparently the contract wasn’t completed until May 1993. The (-) amounts may have been penalties for delivery after the specified completion date(s). A vest made with this contract number could have been manufactured any time between April 1991 and May 1993.

                              This added on manufacture and modifications on the same contract is not unusual and in some cases went on for several years. Most of the contracts were negotiated and completed without added equipment contracted or modifications to the contracted amount.

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