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  • schoolbd
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 85

    #1

    Model 97 riot gun

    Found this today and purchased it as it looked correct , what do you guys think? Serial no. Is e 900000 range
    Thanks for your opinionsIMG_1427.jpgIMG_1427.jpgIMG_1430.jpgIMG_1428.jpg
    Last edited by schoolbd; 07-22-2017, 01:38.
  • scosgt
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 673

    #2
    Originally posted by schoolbd
    Found this today and purchased it as it looked correct , what do you guys think? Serial no. Is e 900000 range
    Thanks for your opinions[ATTACH=CONFIG]41516[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41516[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41517[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]41519[/ATTACH]
    You are not showing enough of the gun to express any opinion.
    I will tell you that a riot gun with a bomb on the receiver might be unusual or not right. You need to show more of the gun.

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    • schoolbd
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 85

      #3
      IMG_1438.jpgIMG_1439.jpgIMG_1440.jpgIMG_1442.jpgIMG_1441.jpgMore photos

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      • scosgt
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 673

        #4
        Interesting. The serial is way too high for a WB stock, so almost certainly a replacement stock.
        It does seem to have riot type parts, normally anything in that range with a bomb on the receiver would be a trench. They stopped making 97 riots somewhere I think in the 930.000 range. The riot guns seen are always early guns. They would have the WB but not the bomb on the receiver. Anything is possible, but I would not personally pay a lot for that gun. Too many questions.

        BUT I had a mint to new trench s/n 935000 GHD stock no bomb on receiver. Who knows.
        Last edited by scosgt; 07-23-2017, 02:01.

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        • Tom Doniphon
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 526

          #5
          It is a high serial number for a riot gun, but I have date on a couple of riot guns in the 937xxx range. One has the "US" only on the receiver and a WB marked stock. The other has both the "US" and the Ordnance marked receiver and did not have a stock cartouche. There are a lot of WB marked stocks in the 937,000-938,000 serial number range, but the vast majority of those 97s are trench guns.

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          • scosgt
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 673

            #6
            Might be the same gun!

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            • schoolbd
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 85

              #7
              According to research from Cody museum my gun was made in 1942 and the barrel is marked 42 ?

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              • schoolbd
                Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 85

                #8
                Thank you for the input guys

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                • scosgt
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 673

                  #9
                  AND it's on gunbroker.
                  Still not convinced it is right.

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                  • schoolbd
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 85

                    #10
                    Yep put it out there , being I wasn't there in 1942 and overseeing production it's hard to say what went on. It looks good to me. Thanks again for your input

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                    • JOHN COOK
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 711

                      #11
                      I have a Model '97 Serial nbr 948565, it is identified as being made in 1942. It has no military markings anywhere. It has the correct length and is marked as being a CYL Bore. It is a break down model and when I became the owner it had Yellow Paint Stencil numbers across the stock . I don't recall the nbrs. but wish I had left them there. Removed them with some Acetone and polished it up. This was before I knew anything about military shotguns. My guess it was probably law enforcement connected, prison, or possibly security. I have actually shot skeet with this gun, but you have to be quick. LOL

                      john
                      “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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                      • scosgt
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 673

                        #12
                        Number is probably too high to be WWII production.

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                        • JOHN COOK
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 711

                          #13
                          Even though it is dated 1942? Not trying to imply it was manufactured for the war, but it appears to have been made during that time frame. Response appreciated.
                          Thanks
                          john
                          “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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                          • scosgt
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 673

                            #14
                            If you are dating it from the Maadis book or it's progeny, their numbers are not correct.
                            There should be a date on the barrel. Under the action bar near the receiver.

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                            • Tom Doniphon
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 526

                              #15
                              The receiver was serialized in late 1942.

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