High Standard Trench guns

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  • colt thompson
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 120

    #1

    High Standard Trench guns

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/872317706

    Any way to tell a real one from a made up one?
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11297

    #2
    I would ask for the serial number and go over to https://www.histandard.info/ and send Mr Stimson a note,

    the forum is down, but there is a contact link for him

    he may be able to provide records to show it was delivered to the .gov,


    it has been refinished, but by .gov or not I have no idea

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    • scosgt
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 673

      #3
      FAKE (in my opinion).
      There are guys on each coast that make fake trenchguns. Looks like the work of the guy on the West coast.

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      • Tom Doniphon
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 526

        #4
        Fake marks. Among other issues with that shotgun, the government wasn't using the ordnance bomb mark when these High Standard shotguns were made.

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        • colt thompson
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 120

          #5
          I emailed Mr Stimson about the Gunbroker and the pre98 trench guns.
          Here is his response


          Hello Brian,

          I have very little research about High Standard riot guns. The only
          research I have seen on them in print is Thomas Swearengen's book and
          Bruce Canfield's book .

          I do know enough to say that I can take issue with some comments in both
          books. More in Swearengen's book because he says more. But I have not
          tried to commit to paper those differences.

          Unfortunately, the factory records a are not easy to use in the case of
          their shotguns and since a lot of the early shotguns are not serialized
          the data is not available in a serial number log.

          I have found orders for police shotguns that were shipped with Service
          Armament hand guards installed. I have found some that were shipped on
          consignment to a few government facilities and I have found they were
          returned and sold from the High Standard collection in 1980.

          The two references you provided are ones I have seen before. One of the
          accompanying stories talks about 1970's and a model that was
          discontinued in late 1968.

          I am skeptical about the two you referenced but I have not done
          sufficient research to see if I can find say these are valid or bogus.


          John Stimson

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