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  • ww2imposter
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 213

    #1

    1947 m97

    Is the flaming bomb in the attached pic correct? It certainly looks correct to me but I think it's a Springfield Arsonal stamp like the one used on ww1 SA m1911's. The ser # places this shotgun in the 1947 range. The shotgun also has a steel butt plate, is this correct?
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  • SPEEDGUNNER
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 729

    #2
    We need more pictures of the rest of the gun. What is the serial number? If you are using the little Winchester book to check the date is not always accurate, especially with the WWII guns. If you look behind the action bar on the bottom of the barrel right in front of the receiver you may be able to see a 2-digit date. You'll need a light.

    That bomb is way too early for a post WWII shotgun.
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    A race that can't stay still;
    So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
    And they roam the world at will." - Robert Service

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    • ww2imposter
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 213

      #3
      ser# 925364......




      Last edited by ww2imposter; 05-26-2014, 11:52.
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      • Ironlip
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 309

        #4
        Early vs Late Bomb Stamps

        Attached are two pictures of Model 97 barrel stamps. In the one of two guns, the one on the right is probably from the November 1941 order referenced in Canfield's book, and has just the US stamp on the receiver. The one on the left is later, with both US and a bomb on the receiver.

        The single barrel in the other pic is a close up of the earlier barrel.
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        • ww2imposter
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 213

          #5
          Well it's as clear as mud now.
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          • Tom Doniphon
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 526

            #6
            It's an early WW2 shotgun. It was likely made sometime around the Spring of 1942. Early WW2 Military 97s, particularly the riot guns, have the open flame mark on top of the barrel like your's and only the "US" mark on the side of the receiver. The metal buttplate is typical of the ones the Military used as replacements. I have a WW1 1897 trench gun with the same type of metal replacement buttplate.

            Can you confirm that your gun is a riot gun and not a trench gun?

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            • ww2imposter
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 213

              #7
              It's not mine, its for sale here at a shop. These pics were sent to me from a friend.
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              • Dave L
                Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 82

                #8
                This is an early WW2 riot which went through an arsenal at one time, due the black parked finish... which kills the collector quality to me.
                Not worth the fifteen bucks he's asking.

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                • ww2imposter
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 213

                  #9
                  Thanks Dave.
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