Seeking Winchester Model 1200 heat shield/bayo lug

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  • mp_tx
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 45

    #1

    Seeking Winchester Model 1200 heat shield/bayo lug

    Heard there was a batch of Vietnam era originals that hit the market a few years back. Of course I missed the boat. Anyone have a spare or know where one is hiding out? I would even be interested in a repro of it fit the Riot barrel (.860). Thanks.
  • SPEEDGUNNER
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 729

    #2
    Just be patient and keep your eyes peeled, they turn up here and on eBay on occasion...and they aren't too salty in their pricing. Making a clone, or missing one from a real gun?

    About 7 years ago or so there was a spate of 1200 trenchguns that hit the market, most seemed to be coming from a PD supply in MS. They were offered with and without the heatshields, and those were also floating around at that time. It was a great opportunity to get what will someday prove to be a very hard to find martial shotgun.

    Most of them looked like these, with a mix of wood and dry as a bone:






    There are two serial ranges on these U.S. marked shotguns, the early range has a black anodized receiver, the later is parked. The U.S. markings are under the serial on the receiver and on the barrel. Other parts are the same.

    This is a later one with matching wood:

    "There's a race of men that don't fit in,
    A race that can't stay still;
    So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
    And they roam the world at will." - Robert Service

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    • bigskybound
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 206

      #3
      Maybe this:

      http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=438089789

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      • mp_tx
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 45

        #4
        I just bought a cheap Riot and thought I would have some fun.

        What are the serial number ranges for the US marked guns? I keep seeing reference to the later receivers being parkerized but that is impossible as they are aluminum and Parkerizing does not work on aluminum. It must be a spray on finish that matches the zinc parkerizing?

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        • da gimp
          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 10137

          #5
          I've got a parkerized Colt Agent, serial range 13,XXX, that both the barrel & cylinder (steel) match the frame (aluminum) exactly in color............it is one of my preferred daily CCW snub noses...... the finish on it is extremely durable. By the way, I have a good, long time gunsmith who opined that the model 1200 & 1300 Winchesters were both stronger than the original Win model 12's........that shotgun ought to hold up very well as a user if need be...........
          be safe, enjoy life, journey well
          da gimp
          OFC, Mo. Chapter

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          • mtrpdw
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 44

            #6
            Metal is "parkerized", aka: phosphating.

            Aluminum is "anodized", i.e., the M16/M4 upper and lower receivers. It's an industrial chemical process impregnated into the aluminum - it's not a spray-on and baked substance.

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            • mp_tx
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 45

              #7
              Originally posted by mtrpdw
              Metal is "parkerized", aka: phosphating.

              Aluminum is "anodized", i.e., the M16/M4 upper and lower receivers. It's an industrial chemical process impregnated into the aluminum - it's not a spray-on and baked substance.
              Amazing how close of a color match they got on the anodizing to the zinc parkerizing on those later shotguns.

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              • mtrpdw
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 44

                #8
                It all depends on what "pigments" are added to the chemical bath, whether anodizing or phosphating, that gives the black, grey, or grey/green colour.

                Apparently, from what some military firearm refinishers are telling me, the pigments/chemicals used for the period WWI/WWII/Korea/Vietnam grey/green finish firearms is now a banned substance (environmental hazard!).

                This is the reason why most newly manufactured parkerized/anodized firearms come only in dark grey or black (i.e., Remington, Mossberg, Ithaca, Winchester, Benelli, etc.).

                A few refinishers have some stock of the remaining banned chemicals - but, when those stocks are gone, they're gone. That's why the high cost on true, period refinishing.
                Last edited by mtrpdw; 09-01-2014, 03:35.

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