Winchester trench gun? yey or nay?

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  • NRA
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7

    #1

    Winchester trench gun? yey or nay?

    Interested in what others think, is this for real or make believe?
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  • NRA
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7

    #2
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    • NRA
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2016
      • 7

      #3
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      • Ironlip
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 309

        #4
        Clearly not military and almost certainly fake. It's a converted riot gun. The bracket holding the mag tube to the barrel tells you that. I think all pre-WWII trench guns were solid frame. This one is a take down version. I'm sure others who know more than me see additional defects.

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        • jim-d
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 150

          #5
          Agree with Ironlip. The serial number on ww1 guns was not stamped on the barrel, and the shield/bayonet lug is not correctly mounted

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          • scosgt
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 673

            #6
            Serial is way too low for WWI, and it was correctly stated that WWI trench guns, starting at serial #670,000 are solid frame only. Adapter looks like a repro.
            No, not for real.

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            • scosgt
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 673

              #7
              The front lug is cast. You can see the marks. The originals are Winchester. Enough said.

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              • NRA
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 7

                #8
                Kind of what I feared, thanks all

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                • SPEEDGUNNER
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 729

                  #9
                  OP got all butthurt over on Gunboards when this shotgun was posted for sale. His for sale listing was pretty arrogant and the homework he is doing now is the homework he should have done BEFORE he insisted the shotgun was original U.S. Military. A number of Gunboards members called him out and he deleted his post. It is good he has come here so that those with all the knowledge can validate what he learned on Gunboards. At the same time it is unfortunate for him, sadly he is learning he has something he thought was genuine and it is not.
                  "There's a race of men that don't fit in,
                  A race that can't stay still;
                  So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
                  And they roam the world at will." - Robert Service

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                  • scosgt
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 673

                    #10
                    OH well. He got ripped off. It happens all the time.

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                    • NRA
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SPEEDGUNNER
                      OP got all butthurt over on Gunboards when this shotgun was posted for sale. His for sale listing was pretty arrogant and the homework he is doing now is the homework he should have done BEFORE he insisted the shotgun was original U.S. Military. A number of Gunboards members called him out and he deleted his post. It is good he has come here so that those with all the knowledge can validate what he learned on Gunboards. At the same time it is unfortunate for him, sadly he is learning he has something he thought was genuine and it is not.
                      So many things wrong with your post don't know where to begin. I never insisted it was original. I did not delete the post the mods did. I have never misled anybody and did not intend to. If there was an error in my post I asked to be PM and I would've corrected said error. And I was posting this for a friend that had no clue. Enough said have a good day

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                      • scosgt
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 673

                        #12
                        Butthurt again!

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                        • keith smart
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by scosgt
                          Butthurt again!
                          LOL I like that! Can't please everyone.

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                          • hyrax222
                            Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 84

                            #14
                            Oh how painful , the learning process!

                            Buy the books, talk to the RKI's and do your research.

                            Purchase the gun not the story..

                            I know, I have made numerous blunders...

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                            • Sunray
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3251

                              #15
                              Barrel jacket isn't right either. Too short.
                              Spelling and grammar count!

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