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  • dzelenka
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 41

    #16
    I use an underarmor T-shirt and either a long sleeve cotton T or a sweat shirt depending on the position (T-shirt for standing). When you take off the coat during the summer down here, if feels like air conditioning. :^) Seriously, you are only in the coat for short lengths of time. Staying hydrated is the most important. A wet rag on your head or the back of your neck feels good on those 100+ heat index days while you are shooting slow prone. A plus for shooting down here is that even hot days at Perry feel like welcome relief. Perry is a refreshing respite to July and August in South Louisiana.

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    • dzelenka
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 41

      #17
      I agree with John about another thing - going Distinguished is not about getting the right "gadget" or the "perfect load". You should buy the best quality you can afford in a coat, rifle and scope. A really good and reliable trigger is a plus. Beyond that, develop a good handload, load a lot of it and practice. When you find a load that will shoot under 3/4 MOA in your rifle. Stop worrying about your load and concentrate on your shooting. Finding a load that will shoot 3/4 in an AR is not hard and you may stumble on one even better, but don't waste a lot of time trying to get from 3/4 to 1/2 MOA. Other things are costing you more points than your ammo.

      Dan

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      • Maury Krupp
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 824

        #18
        I'll piggyback on what John and Mr Zelenka say about loads and go as far as non-safety related load development for Service Rifle is pretty much a waste of time.

        The AR has been in use long enough for the "industry standard" loads that work well enough in any rifle to be figured out. That's even more true for .30cal.

        Pick one of these loads, test enough to be sure it won't blow up your gun, make a cubic-buttload of them, then go practice.

        The 10-ring is 2MOA; it doesn't take much of a load for the ammo to hold that. If *YOU* can hold 2MOA (and read wind and don't make any stupid mistakes and don't clank-up in the knee-high breeze) you'll shoot a 500-with lots of Xs. That will leg *anywhere*

        Maury

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        • dzelenka
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 41

          #19
          There is that "YOU" factor to contend with. :>)

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          • Sharpsman
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 12

            #20
            Originally posted by dzelenka
            Phillip,

            There are highpower matches (but no EIC matches) at Bogue Chitto, MS. These matches are run by Doug Bowser, but were not terribly well organized the last time I attended. There are also monthly matches at Palo Alto Rifle and Pistol Club in Donaldsonville, LA. They are on the 3rd Saturday of each month and are very well run. The match director is Jay Hunt - jdhunt3@louisianashooting.com . The LA state championship and EIC match are the 3rd weekend of October. I know at least 1 person who is coming from Jackson to that match.



            Also, are you sure Doug is Distinguished? I didn't think he was.

            Dan
            DR1827
            Bowser?? Distinguished??

            Dang...if that's the case....I think I'll turn the one I earned years ago in!!

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            • dzelenka
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 41

              #21
              Originally posted by Sharpsman
              Bowser?? Distinguished??

              Dang...if that's the case....I think I'll turn the one I earned years ago in!!
              I checked around and I am certain he is not. So, who are you, hiding behind the alias. Do you shoot in MS or LA?

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              • Sharpsman
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 12

                #22
                I've won the La. and Miss. HP Championship twice. Last registered match I fired was in Texas; won the Texas State HP Long Range Championship that year!

                When the 'Rat Gun' came into being....I quit! I hate that damn thing with a dying passion!!

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                • PhillipM
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5937

                  #23
                  Sharpsman, I was mistaken about Doug, my apologies. It would be fun to shoot with you informally one day if you are around.

                  Anyway back to topic I have a former Marine friend with an AR that has been hitting me up to shoot so I took him and his son to the range yesterday to play/practice. While inspecting his AR, a Colt post ban HB, he said he always wanted to get into shooting matches and that's why he bought it. He's originally from Bourg, Louisiana so shooting in the canefields will be like a homecoming to him.
                  Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                  "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                  • dzelenka
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 41

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Sharpsman
                    I've won the La. and Miss. HP Championship twice. Last registered match I fired was in Texas; won the Texas State HP Long Range Championship that year!

                    When the 'Rat Gun' came into being....I quit! I hate that damn thing with a dying passion!!
                    Like it or not, the "Rat Gun' will shoot rings around the big .30s. If you quit before the AR became popular, you probably haven't competed since the late 90s. That is before my time.

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                    • Maury Krupp
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 824

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dzelenka
                      Like it or not, the "Rat Gun' will shoot rings around the big .30s.,,
                      Ahem,

                      That should be "The ratgun will often alllow the shooter to shoot rings around another shooter with a .30"

                      A ten is still a ten and an X is still an X. Both a ratgun and a .30 can put holes in the middle if the shooter points it there.

                      It's just normally easier and always cheaper with a ratgun.

                      And usually not as much fun either

                      Maury

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                      • dzelenka
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 41

                        #26
                        Maury,

                        Because I have accomplished pretty much what I set out to do with a Service Rifle, I no longer feel compelled to bring my AR to every match. Regular monthly matches see me with a variety of "antiques". Last month, an M1A was calling to me so I shot it for the first time in quite a while. Even without zeros I managed a 481-12X with it, including a 193-7X slow prone (I just couldn't see the target well enough with the big rear aperture to get a score that the rifle is capable of). It was good for 2nd overall out of 31 shooters. The winner shot a 198-8X slow prone with an AR SR to knock me out.

                        Once, I went to the local 200 yd match with a stock K-31 just to show that it could be done. I managed a solid EX score with it. That was a lot of fun.

                        Oh, I think that the average rat gun is more accurate than all but the very very best .30s. The best of the ARs are really difficult to beat in the accuracy dept.
                        Last edited by dzelenka; 09-08-2010, 12:08.

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                        • Collector497
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 5

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Maury Krupp
                          And usually not as much fun either
                          Winning is always fun. And in service rifle, there's a better chance to do that with an AR than the .30 cal guns we started shooting with. It all depends on your personal reasons for shooting.

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                          • John Kepler
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 3028

                            #28
                            Originally posted by dzelenka
                            Lik If you quit before the AR became popular, you probably haven't competed since the late 90s. That is before my time.
                            More like mid-90's...which is one hell of a long time ago as far as Highpower is concerned. By 1996 80% of all Service Rifles at the Nationals were AR's, by 1998, it was over 95%. How can anyone go so far as to say they "hate" (with a "passion") an inanimate object???? It's in the same logical universe as "hating" a hoe or a Crescent wrench...a non sequitur.

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                            • Bill D
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2568

                              #29
                              Having used them both, I don't have any trouble hateing either a hoe or a crescent wrench.

                              Not real wild about the "plastic fantastic" either.
                              "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

                              "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
                              -- Robert Frost

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                              • John Kepler
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3028

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bill D
                                .

                                Not real wild about the "plastic fantastic" either.
                                In over 45 years of shooting, most of it in some flavor of competition, I have YET to see a target that was the least bit impressed by the appearance or pedigree of the firearm shooting at it....what shoots best, IS best. AR's shoot better than any of the other alternatives. BTW, "hating" inanimate objects is a pathology that can be treated.

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