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  • daveboy
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 216

    #1

    What is this?

    11822647_840662615982537_8485597185748888924_n.jpg I have not touched this revolver, but a friend sent me this photo wanting to know what they had. Any help?
  • SMOKEY
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Sep 2009
    • 4524

    #2
    Its a pistol. Now what kind, I sir, have not a clue.
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    • dave
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6778

      #3
      Pistol generally mean semi-auto, its a revolver. More pics, markings, would certainly help. It is a cartridge gun, so post 1870?, unless it defied the S&W patent, does look foreign.
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      • daveboy
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 216

        #4
        Well, I knew I wasn't giving you much to work with, was just hoping that it would look familiar to someone. If I actually could see the gun I could likely give more details. The only thing I was told was that it had a "cross" mark on both sides and the number 694. No other writing or numbers.

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        • joem
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 11835

          #5
          Way more pictures would help. Pic of bore and cyl essential as well as hammer configuration.

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          • Tuna
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2686

            #6
            I would hazard a guess of it being made in Europe. I would not be surprised if it was made in France or Belgium.

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            • da gimp
              Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
              • Aug 2009
              • 10137

              #7
              I'm leaning to early post civil war era... maybe even 1865 or so...as Tuna said likely it was by the folks in Belgium & France who didn't pay much attention to patent rights, maybe English too... and during the war time they freely violated patents...S&W stayed busy fighting their patent rights for years, successfully too.
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              • Sunray
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3251

                #8
                Looks like a pin fire to me. Hordes of 'em made in 19th Century Belgium and France. WHAG.
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                • joem
                  Senior Member, Deceased
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11835

                  #9
                  Might be military due to the lanyard ring. WAG

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                  • 2flasargent
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 155

                    #10
                    Looks like it evolved or was converted from a pepperbox, Didn't see notches indicating a pinfire. probably rimfire. Not much else on the little available to be seen.
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                    • Johnny P
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6258

                      #11
                      A pinfire has to have a slot in the cylinder for the "pin" to stick up through, and the hammer comes down on top of this pin.

                      The U.S. military called their revolvers pistols until the auto pistol came out, and then depending on which design, they were revolvers or pistols.

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                      • jgaynor
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1287

                        #12
                        There is another revolver design called a "teat fire". The cartridges are inserted from the front of the cylinder and a small, tubular extension containing the priming compound protrudes through the rear of the cylinder. Single action with a spur trigger. The cartridge extension with the priming compound is crushed by the hammer.

                        We have one of this type in the family made by the Moore Revolver Co and reportedly carried by distant relative in his duties as an NYPD patrolman in late 1800's.

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                        • da gimp
                          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10137

                          #13
                          I've got a Moore teat fire.. this isn't one of them...
                          be safe, enjoy life, journey well
                          da gimp
                          OFC, Mo. Chapter

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                          • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7450

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dave
                            Pistol generally mean semi-auto, its a revolver. More pics, markings, would certainly help. It is a cartridge gun, so post 1870?, unless it defied the S&W patent, does look foreign.
                            Smokey is correct. It is a pistol. You have auto pistols, revolver pistols, etc. A pistol is a hand held firearm.

                            jt

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                            • keith smart
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 163

                              #15
                              If large caliber, I think it is a French Devisme
                              Last edited by keith smart; 10-01-2015, 09:10.

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