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  • barretcreek
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 6065

    #1

    Didn't know this.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...reverse-trend/

    "A little-known fact about the DEA is that they must approve the amount of raw material used to produce certain medicines, like opioids, so in effect, they control the supply. The Obama-era DEA oversaw a massive build up in the amount of opioids they allowed to enter the market. For example, beginning in 2009, the DEA increased the supply of Oxycodone by 34% and continued this increase until that number reached nearly 60% by the year 2013."

    PoS.
    Last edited by barretcreek; 09-30-2017, 07:57.
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Thanks drug companies!
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • RED
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11689

      #3
      It was just another small attack in his war to destroy America. I still firmly believe that was his intent. When he sat in church that Sunday and listened his friend, advisor, and minister say, "God damn America!!!" his heart smiled, and he whispered, "Amen, brother, Amen!"

      Encouraging opioid addiction was just another one of the thousand small cuts leading to the death and destruction of the American culture.
      Last edited by RED; 09-30-2017, 09:08.

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      • TomSudz
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 3676

        #4
        We run around 5 overedoses a month involving narcotics. With the exception of the occasional suicide attempt, NONE of those involve prescription medication! It is mostly heroin. The "everybody carries Narcan" solution has only made things worse. I can't speak for other states, but here in PA you can walk in to a pharmacy, ask for Narcan, plunk your cash down and walk out. Now we might not know that Johnny or Suzie OD'd until the third time they do it and mommy and daddy are out of Narcan and HAVE to call for help. It used to be that you OD'd and died. Now there's a safety net. If you OD, no big deal, somebody probably has Narcan and, if not, just call 911 and the police, fire and EMS all have it. Kind of like how when air bags started to become standard and people didn't think they needed to use their seat belts anymore. So it's not that overdoses have dramatically gone up, it's that the same person is ODing multiple times instead of being dead. 10 years ago five OD's in a year was a lot.

        Of course, to remedy the situation the government will punish people with chronic pain who use prescription pain medication. Orders are coming down from on high (no pun intended) in healthcare telling doctors to limit the use of narcotics and it's affecting the doctors ability to do math. I'll use myself as an example. I smashed my spine into the turret ring of a humvee in Iraq. There is powder where the disc at L4, L5 should be. The vertebrae essentially sit on one another. If I have the surgery as described by three surgeons, I will be limited to lifting not more than 35 pounds. That would force me to retire because, obviously, firefighters have to lift more than that. I have tried different medications and the one that actually did anything for my pain is Percocet. Vicoden was as useful as baby aspirin. Occasionally when the pain is bad enough I go to pain management for an injection. The worst it's ever been I had to use a Fentanyl patch and use the Percocet for breakthrough pain. Took 3 a day and still hurt. A fast run would have looked like Tim Conway as the old guy on Carol Burnett.

        My normal prescription was 3 tablets 3 times a day, or 90 pills. As of 3 months ago, my prescription is 3 tablets 3 times a day, of 75 pills. I have tried to explain that the math doesn't work, but it seems that the only ones who see the problem aren't in healthcare. When I call for a new prescription when the pills run out in 25 days, the doctor says it's too soon, I say it's right on time for the amount given. This is the solution to opiod problems. Short the actual people in pain on their pain meds and make sure the druggies overdosing are safe.
        I dream of a better world. One where chickens may cross the road without their motives being questioned.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by TomSudz
          We run around 5 overedoses a month involving narcotics. With the exception of the occasional suicide attempt, NONE of those involve prescription medication! It is mostly heroin. The "everybody carries Narcan" solution has only made things worse. I can't speak for other states, but here in PA you can walk in to a pharmacy, ask for Narcan, plunk your cash down and walk out. Now we might not know that Johnny or Suzie OD'd until the third time they do it and mommy and daddy are out of Narcan and HAVE to call for help. It used to be that you OD'd and died. Now there's a safety net. If you OD, no big deal, somebody probably has Narcan and, if not, just call 911 and the police, fire and EMS all have it. Kind of like how when air bags started to become standard and people didn't think they needed to use their seat belts anymore. So it's not that overdoses have dramatically gone up, it's that the same person is ODing multiple times instead of being dead. 10 years ago five OD's in a year was a lot.

          Of course, to remedy the situation the government will punish people with chronic pain who use prescription pain medication. Orders are coming down from on high (no pun intended) in healthcare telling doctors to limit the use of narcotics and it's affecting the doctors ability to do math. I'll use myself as an example. I smashed my spine into the turret ring of a humvee in Iraq. There is powder where the disc at L4, L5 should be. The vertebrae essentially sit on one another. If I have the surgery as described by three surgeons, I will be limited to lifting not more than 35 pounds. That would force me to retire because, obviously, firefighters have to lift more than that. I have tried different medications and the one that actually did anything for my pain is Percocet. Vicoden was as useful as baby aspirin. Occasionally when the pain is bad enough I go to pain management for an injection. The worst it's ever been I had to use a Fentanyl patch and use the Percocet for breakthrough pain. Took 3 a day and still hurt. A fast run would have looked like Tim Conway as the old guy on Carol Burnett.

          My normal prescription was 3 tablets 3 times a day, or 90 pills. As of 3 months ago, my prescription is 3 tablets 3 times a day, of 75 pills. I have tried to explain that the math doesn't work, but it seems that the only ones who see the problem aren't in healthcare. When I call for a new prescription when the pills run out in 25 days, the doctor says it's too soon, I say it's right on time for the amount given. This is the solution to opiod problems. Short the actual people in pain on their pain meds and make sure the druggies overdosing are safe.
          Working with drug addicts, they could always find a source. One client swiped some of the pain medication from his father who was dying from cancer! I turned in my pain medication from my cancer treatment to the S.O., they wouldn't take the liquids for some reason unknown to me. I brought the liquid oxycodone back home and dumped it onto an ant mound to kill two bird with one stone. I am sure glad to get my aspirin back for my neuropathy. The government likes to use a ten pound sledge to kill a fly to show that something is being done about the perceived situation. I often told my clients that their death is easy, their living having stroked out is hard. I have become a cynic and at first tried to keep people out of jail or eventually prison. I soon came to realize that in jail/ prison it was harder to get their drug, still able to but harder. Tom I understand your pain having had cancer, with my neuropathy of the feet I often feel like I have hot pins being driven into my feet. It was one of the side affects of chemotherapy, some got it in their hands and feet...it will never go away as it is damaged nerve endings.
          Sam

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            Tom Nailed it! I have suffered osteoarthritis for many years... so far I have had both knees, both shoulders and a hip replaced. I had a Laminectomy (sp?) on my back in 2000 the to relieve pressure on the spine by the L-4 and L-5. Then in 2004 I had L-4 and 5 fused, I had to wear a hard brace for 6 months. I had just just got out of the dang thing when I had an accident and burst vertebrae fracture of the L-3. I spent 21 days in the hospital and the next 36 in a rehab facility. I have little to no feeling in both feet and walking is a problem.

            Pain medication at the VA is simply not prescribed. The strongest med they will give me is Tramadol... it is about the same relief you would get from 2 aspirins. Not only that, the RX is for two 50mg pills a day but the script is written for 30 pills a month. I am paying a price and suffering pain because young and healthy jackasses are killing themselves.
            Last edited by RED; 09-30-2017, 04:28. Reason: sp.

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            • dryheat
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 10587

              #7
              Great. They "cured" AIDS and now heroin isn't fatal anymore. How do we ever get rid of scumbags? Life imitates art, soon there will be real Undead wandering the streets. More than there are now.
              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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              • Major Tom
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 6181

                #8
                My wife suffered a severe accident where her right leg was broke and had to have the knee replaced. She was on oxcycoten for a brief time then the doctor stopped all pain meds. I see her suffering pain every day and it makes me mad that this opioid thing has caused her and others to suffer. To all the druggies and irresponsible people.........it would not bother me in the least if you all killed yourself!

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