Puerto Rician Aid

[RED]

"Likely"??? Never important as a military base, natural resources, any other reason

Ohhhh... never important as a military base? Look up Roosevelt Roads and Vieques Island. It was a very important base built in WWII and was the place all of the East Coast Navy and Marines trained during the Vietnam thing. We shot missiles at drones and dropped live bombs on a mocked up NVN airbase and SAM sites. I spent 3 days and nights on Vieques with the Marines practicing close air support with live ordnance including Napes, Snakes, FFAR's and Zunis. We even got to play with some Walleyes the first "smart" bomb the Navy had.

In addition, Rosey Roads had a top secret intelligence command site there. They had a huge wall sized electronic map and the Duty Officer could point out the position of every Soviet nuclear submarine that was at sea in the Atlantic Ocean or the Caribbean, (as well as our own).

When the PR's voted to close Vieques in 2004, Bush II closed the base and that was a major impetus for the economic problems they have today.

One of the reasons the relief supplies aren't being transported is because most of the PR truck drivers and police officers are at home struggling to save their families, the roads and trucks have been destroyed and their Governor says it is all Trump's fault. We have 10,000 people there trying to help but in many cases the locals are the ones to decide who gets what and when and they are as inept and corrupt as they come.

Just my $.02.

[clintonhater]

Ohhhh... never important as a military base?

Sorry, my mistake. But is it worth a constant flow of immigration into the mainland? Millions of them already infest NYC.

[togor]

Clintonhater can you please dial the hate back a little. Kicking people while they're down makes you look pretty lousy in comparison.

[clintonhater]

Clintonhater can you please dial the hate back a little. Kicking people while they're down makes you look pretty lousy in comparison.

No--not when the media has discovered a fresh way to attack Trump by dragging in every far-left Hispanic they can find (along with the usual Demo critics, of course) to tell the world how much better they could have handled the disaster. Why don't you tell THEM to "dial the hate back a little"?

[togor]

I wish everyone would dial it back a little. I don't think it's helping.

[Dan Shapiro]

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............seems the Mighty Mouth Mayor might have an agenda.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/neighboring-mayor-praises-trump-says-san-juan-mayor-playing-politics-awol-at-meetings/article/2636185

[Sandpebble]

Clintonhater can you please dial the hate back a little. Kicking people while they're down makes you look pretty lousy in comparison.

As a "wise man" has said to us on many an occasion Togor ........... "Agitate and Hate... that's what Nazis do" ...

[clintonhater]

As a "wise man" has said to us on many an occasion Togor ........... "Agitate and Hate... that's what Nazis do" ...

"Agitate?" That's rich--what is the composition of the screaming mobs formed on every college campus any time a conservative speaker tries to talk, or every time a Republican House member tries to conduct a public forum in his home district? Is disrupting a sports event with a totally unrelated protest "agitation"? Must be lots of Demos wearing swasticas under their clothes; they are the originals when it comes to violent protest & civic disruption.

[sid]

I agree with the above posts. I would also add that only 10% of the population speaks English, crime and drugs are rampant. The locals are now involved in looting all of the homes that have been abandoned.

The island's government is totally corrupt and that is why they are bankrupt. We shouldn't give them a dime. They got themselves into it. Let them get themselves out of it.

[m1ashooter]

Lets see how this logic works out. The power grid is destroyed? Does that mean the generating plants are destroyed or do they just needed to be repaired. Can they be repaired? Don't know. Then if you can generate power are the lines on the ground or are the lines on the ground and the poles broke. How many poles are broke? Does the island have a supply of poles, doubtful, do close by states have enough poles to replace the broken ones, maybe but they have to gathered up and shipped to the island. Then, are the lines to the homes and buiness up or down. If down then a trained person needs to repair those also. Then there are the transformers and substations etc that may or may not need to be repaired? All this takes time and money and trained labor. Who pays for this? If 50% of the population live below the poverty level does this mean the other 50% pay for the new stuff and repairs?

Lets say we evacuate the 50% that live below the poverty level to the CONUS. where do we bring them and how do we support them? That might be the easier answer to all their problems. Bring them stateside.

But then what do I know. I envision a power grid like we have in the states. Maybe thats not how the grid on the island works. What ever the solution is I just know we need to help this people because that land is US Territory.

I wonder why we aren't hearing anything from the USVI's?

[clintonhater]

Lets say we evacuate the 50% that live below the poverty level to the CONUS. where do we bring them and how do we support them?

Unload them in Spanish Harlem, where most of the population is already welfare-dependent. In fact, it's surprising the Gov of NY and Mayor of NYC hasn't already proposed that, since they've been saying over & over again how "important" PRs are to the State. Wouldn't change balance of power in the Senate, either, as downstate NY can't get any more Democratic than it already is. Worse thing would be to have them spread out all over the country where they could influence local elections for the worse.

[Sandpebble]

I agree with the above posts. I would also add that only 10% of the population speaks English, crime and drugs are rampant. The locals are now involved in looting all of the homes that have been abandoned.

The island's government is totally corrupt and that is why they are bankrupt. We shouldn't give them a dime. They got themselves into it. Let them get themselves out of it.

Sid... you do realize what we are talking about.... right? I'm not sure I can follow your thoughts on two back to back devasting hurricanes as something "They got themselves into"

If my country can afford to spend billions to rebuild the neighborhoods of Baghdad for the benefit of Halliburton stock holders .... it can afford Puerto Rico

[JB White]

One of the reasons PR doesn't select between statehood and independence is because the margin to carry the vote one way or the other isn't enough following plebiscite.
One of the reasons PR wasn't cut loose is because they are not technically a territory nor protectorate. Following the SpanAm war, the wording of the charter technically defines PR as neither, but a colony. A lot of loopholes and political wrangling going on. Especially since the inhabitants claim different citizenships. US, PR, and Spain.

[Vern Humphrey]

"Agitate?" That's rich--what is the composition of the screaming mobs formed on every college campus any time a conservative speaker tries to talk, or every time a Republican House member tries to conduct a public forum in his home district? Is disrupting a sports event with a totally unrelated protest "agitation"? Must be lots of Demos wearing swasticas under their clothes; they are the originals when it comes to violent protest & civic disruption.

"Agitate and hate. That's what Nazis do."

And that's how we know Progressives -- you know, the guys who riot to prevent conservatives from speaking -- are Nazi Brown Shirts.