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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    President-Trump-fails-salute-flag-military-ceremony.

    Trump is "indoor" in a "hanger" and "retreat" sounds. The lib news and followers are crucifying him, by saying he's disrespecting the flag by not stopping talking and standing at attention and saluting. This was only "retreat" ie: the bulgle sounding for the lowing of the flag outside. When I was in the military and in a building/under a roof and not out side, you don't participate in that ceremony, unless it's changed . The Lib news is so blinded with hate they reach for anything, even if they know nothing about it, or maybe they do, but purposely slant it to knock Trump,

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-ceremony.html
    Last edited by rayg; 10-13-2017, 06:11.
  • oscars
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 551

    #2
    After he had repeatedly railed against professional athletes over perceived slights to the American flag and military, President Trump joked on Wednesday about a bugle call that is part of the armed forces’ time-honored tradition of showing respect for the Stars and Stripes.

    The bugle call occurred during Trump’s interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, conducted in an airplane hangar used by the Pennsylvania Air National Guard in Harrisburg and before the president’s address on tax revision.

    “What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you or for me?” Trump said before turning to the audience. “They’re playing that in honor of his ratings,” he added, referencing the popularity of Hannity’s news program.

    [President Trump has made 1,318 false or misleading claims over 263 days]

    Trump went back to speaking about economic growth as several audience members behind him stood up. The bugle call was “Retreat,” which signifies the lowering of the American flag on a military installation. Although Trump attended a military high school, the commander in chief appeared unaware of the music’s meaning.

    Compare this to Robin Williams' response in this video

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #3
      I don't think you read what I wrote. He was inside and and not outside. If out side you should stand at attention and salute the flag. Not required if inside a building, At least that was the way it was when I was in. Ray
      Last edited by rayg; 10-13-2017, 10:19.

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      • RED
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11689

        #4
        Originally posted by rayg
        You didn't read what I wrote. He was inside and and not outside. If out side you should stand at attention and salute the flag. Not required if inside a building, At least that was the way it was when I was in. Ray
        Same here and the Navy doesn't do the retreat ceremony aboard ships either.

        Here is the quote right out of the manual...

        During Reveille and Retreat, those out‐doors should stop activities, and turn in the direction of the installation Flag

        Unless Hannity has moved his show outdoors, the President didn't do anything wrong BUT any chance to stab the President, the country, the flag and our veterans in their backs works for the haters.

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        • swampyankee
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 573

          #5
          [President Trump has made 1,318 false or misleading claims over 263 days]


          ]Give me a break!
          And where did you get this number from? Who's doing the counting?

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          • JB White
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 13371

            #6
            1,318...that's less than the number of times Obama referred to himself in one of his speeches! Is the same guy doing the counting? Poor guy. Somebody buy him a video game.
            2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


            **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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            • leftyo

              #7
              Originally posted by RED
              Same here and the Navy doesn't do the retreat ceremony aboard ships either.

              Here is the quote right out of the manual...




              Unless Hannity has moved his show outdoors, the President didn't do anything wrong BUT any chance to stab the President, the country, the flag and our veterans in their backs works for the haters.
              if you are outside aboard ship, you do in fact stop, turn toward the flag, and salute it! inside anywhere, carry on.

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              • Oyaji
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Oct 2009
                • 4371

                #8
                See below links for observance of colors in the U. S Navy.....

                http://www.navy.mil/features/Morning...0%20Colors.pdf



                Colors is observed by those outside and on deck. Colors is not observed if one is indoors or inside the skin of the ship. This is how it was done every morning and evening for the twenty consecutive years I was in the Navy and I don't think it has changed since my USN retirement thirty years ago.

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                • Dick Hosmer
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5993

                  #9
                  Originally posted by oscars
                  After he had repeatedly railed against professional athletes over perceived slights to the American flag and military, President Trump joked on Wednesday about a bugle call that is part of the armed forces’ time-honored tradition of showing respect for the Stars and Stripes.

                  The bugle call occurred during Trump’s interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, conducted in an airplane hangar used by the Pennsylvania Air National Guard in Harrisburg and before the president’s address on tax revision.

                  “What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you or for me?” Trump said before turning to the audience. “They’re playing that in honor of his ratings,” he added, referencing the popularity of Hannity’s news program.

                  [President Trump has made 1,318 false or misleading claims over 263 days]

                  Trump went back to speaking about economic growth as several audience members behind him stood up. The bugle call was “Retreat,” which signifies the lowering of the American flag on a military installation. Although Trump attended a military high school, the commander in chief appeared unaware of the music’s meaning.

                  Compare this to Robin Williams' response in this video
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD9QAAEfQEA
                  Aha - another dipsh*t for the ignore list!!!!

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                  • sid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3198

                    #10
                    Dick, you absolutely right. I'm putting him on mine right now.

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                    • RED
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Originally posted by leftyo
                      if you are outside aboard ship, you do in fact stop, turn toward the flag, and salute it! inside anywhere, carry on.
                      I was only in the Navy and on active duty for 5.5 years and do not ever remember "retreat" being observed aboard ship. I also, very often can't remember where my glasses are or where my cell phone is at this moment so maybe I missed something during those years. For one thing, retreat is played at 17:00 hours and that is not the end of a work day when you are at sea.

                      If Trump didn't observe the retreat ceremony it was because he wasn't familiar with the protocol. It wasn't because he was trying to disrespect the country, the flag, the anthem, and veterans, which is exactly what the low life SOB's that take a knee are doing.

                      Comparing the two actions is a cowardly, yellow bellied, girly boy act.
                      Last edited by RED; 10-13-2017, 09:45.

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                      • Oyaji
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4371

                        #12
                        Usually the national ensign is flown 24 hours a day aboard a U. S. Navy ship when it is underway and at sea.

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                        • Clark Howard
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2105

                          #13
                          What Mark Twain said.

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                          • leftyo

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RED
                            I was only in the Navy and on active duty for 5.5 years and do not ever remember "retreat" being observed aboard ship. I also, very often can't remember where my glasses are or where my cell phone is at this moment so maybe I missed something during those years. For one thing, retreat is played at 17:00 hours and that is not the end of a work day when you are at sea.

                            If Trump didn't observe the retreat ceremony it was because he wasn't familiar with the protocol. It wasn't because he was trying to disrespect the country, the flag, the anthem, and veterans, which is exactly what the low life SOB's that take a knee are doing.

                            Comparing the two actions is a cowardly, yellow bellied, girly boy act.
                            you apparently missed alot, maybe you never noticed ships spend a lot of time in port, and it damned well is done in port! heck ive got as much time at sea as you had in the navy. trump didnt observe retreat because he was under a roof, that is all.
                            as to the rest of your blubbering, i didnt say anything else so you can take your cowardly yellow bellied girlyboy act and shove it up your azz! once again your starting stuff for no god damned reason, and you had best believe i still havent forgotten my promise! you really need to get some mental help little boy!

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by leftyo
                              you apparently missed alot, maybe you never noticed ships spend a lot of time in port, and it damned well is done in port! heck ive got as much time at sea as you had in the navy. trump didnt observe retreat because he was under a roof, that is all.
                              as to the rest of your blubbering, i didnt say anything else so you can take your cowardly yellow bellied girlyboy act and shove it up your azz! once again your starting stuff for no god damned reason, and you had best believe i still havent forgotten my promise! you really need to get some mental help little boy!
                              You still can't read... The girly boy stuff refers to Oscars comparison of Trump to the kneelers conduct.

                              In my time they didn't blow bugles on ships they used a Boatswain Mate and a pipe. Here are a list of things that were and probably still are "piped."

                              Reveille
                              Muster Reports Due
                              Sweepers
                              Clear Mess Decks
                              Secure Mess Line
                              Dinner for on Coming Watch
                              Turn to Commence Ship's Work
                              Smoking Lamp Out While Taking On Fuel
                              Set Special Sea & Anchor Detail
                              Secure Fuel Detail
                              Set Normal Underway Watch
                              Divisional Mail Petty Officers Pick Up Mail
                              Relieve Watch
                              Knock Off Ship's Work
                              Taps, Smoking Lamp is Out
                              Dinner for the Crew
                              There were other occasions such as Captain (or Admiral) arriving or departing... General Quarters, man overboard etc. but no bugle calls on the ship as I recall except taps at the only funeral and burial at sea that I was at.

                              The above list are the things the Boatswain pipes... Please show me where "Retreat," is on the list. And yes it was probably a recording played over the speakers and not a real Boatswain standing before a mike

                              I didn't say anything disparaging about you or your post other to state I don't remember the "retreat ceremony," being done on the ships I was on.

                              You are flattering yourself if you think I think I give a rat's patootie what you say or what you think/
                              Last edited by RED; 10-14-2017, 09:42.

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