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  • rkohut
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1115

    #1

    Manafort, Gates indictment

    A competent IRS agent could probably have handled this.

  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    You're kidding, right?

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      No mention of DJT, but, since they knew each orther, the MSM will probably go berserk.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        They probably have the same hobbies in the financial world. Stay Tuned.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #5
          See who they can get to lie under oath about someone else and so on.

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          • JB White
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 13371

            #6
            Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
            No mention of DJT, but, since they knew each orther, the MSM will probably go berserk.
            They didn't have to. In the opening statements they used the words 'nominee' and 'campaign'. They also used the names 'Russia' and 'United States'. Context and relevance matter none. That's all the left wing Twitter-Face idiots need to connect dots and draw their own picture.
            2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


            **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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            • RED
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11689

              #7
              If you read the indictments, some of the companies the companies Manafort and Davis started to help Trump collude with the Russians were set up in 1999... Wow! Those guys knew Trump was going to run 15 years before Trump knew he would run.
              Last edited by RED; 10-30-2017, 11:24.

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                "I am self funding and will hire the best people, not the biggest donors"

                (D. J. Trump, April 2016)

                WHOOPS!
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • rkohut
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1115

                  #9
                  Podesta steps down



                  Tony Podesta, a Democratic power lobbyist, announced to colleagues Monday that he is stepping down amid a series of indictments that cast a shadow on work his firm had done with Paul Manafort that may have benefited a Ukrainian regime friendly to the Kremlin.

                  Oh my.....

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    The Papdopoulos plea deserves more attention than it is getting. It's completely independent of the Manafort money laundering his gains from serving Russian interests, and it shows Trump campaign people knowingly reaching out to Russians for campaign advantage ("the Professor" being the foreign contact).

                    "In truth and in fact, however, and as set forth above, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for the first time on or about March 14, 2016, after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had already learned he would be a foreign policy advisor for the Campaign; the Professor showed interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS only after learning of his role on the Campaign; and the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the Russians possessing" dirt" on then-candidate Clinton in late April 2016, more than a month after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had joined the Campaign."

                    Meanwhile, the administration has so far not acted on the recent Russian Sanctions legislation. Is it incompetence or malign neglect? Red will tell us.

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #11
                      But again, these are INDICTMENTS not CONVICTIONS. I was a Grand Jury Forman once, the judge explained our job was not to convict but to see if the law and evidence were close in nature. The person coming before the Jury had to give the state law broken and the reason why an indictment was requested. Not all that we looked at were indicted as "we" did not reason the law was "probably" violated. Our state, at that time, required a 3/4 open vote to indict. I could NOT ask why the person they voted that way, they could volunteer their reason why. @ trial will come their guilt or innocence. Is Trump guilty by association or some people just want to see it that way. The same logic used could be used against Hillary if a Prosecutor wanted to lean in that direction. Attorney General Session could seek indictments against Hillary for the same reason...Bill and She along with "other" could have conspired in the uranium deal against the U.S. In today's politically charged realm of reality this is not too far fetched.
                      Sam

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                      • RED
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11689

                        #12
                        Red will tell us.
                        Red will tell you that you don't have a clue about anything you post here. You don't have a clue as to why, or what, Trump has done or has not done with the so called "Russians Sanctions legislation." The only way you could possibly know that is to have talked with Trump or his Chief of Staff.

                        George Papadoupolis was a low level adviser to people in the Trump Campaign (Manafoprt, et al) He was never "trumps adviser."

                        You are a hater, and that is all you do is hate, lie, and twist words. You have zero integrity and apparently the only way you can get get your jollies is by hurting your own country. You born are a kneeler that disses the anthem and pisses on the flag and our veterans. Agitate, agitate, agitate. l
                        Last edited by RED; 10-30-2017, 01:41.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Sam you're right, innocent until proven guilty.

                          Red your "Hater, Agitator" sermon is your other go-to move when real arguments escape you. There is no good reason for the Administration not implementing those sanctions yet, on a bill that Trump himself signed into law. You wonder why some suspect ulterior motives, some kind of corrupt dealings between Trump and Ivan, well inexplicable delays like this don't help. Just sayin'!

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Sam you're right, innocent until proven guilty.

                            Red your "Hater, Agitator" sermon is your other go-to move when real arguments escape you. There is no good reason for the Administration not implementing those sanctions yet, on a bill that Trump himself signed into law. You wonder why some suspect ulterior motives, some kind of corrupt dealings between Trump and Ivan, well inexplicable delays like this don't help. Just sayin'!
                            Obviously you don't know what is in the unconstitutional act. Give it up and go home you are wrong again.

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              There is no good reason for the Administration not implementing those sanctions yet,
                              What sanctions... the ones against No. Korea, Iran, Syria... which ones?

                              Congress passed a law that violates the U.S. Constitution and is unenforcible and that is no good reason???????????

                              Give up and go home, you are showing only hatred and reason is out of the door.
                              Last edited by RED; 10-30-2017, 05:27.

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