"Trump's Tax Plan Is The Worst Piece Of Legislation...

[sid]

...since Congress passed the Fugitive Slave Act in 1850."

So says the Philadelphia Inquirer, the #1 POS newspaper in America. They were discussing this on a local radio station this morning.

I really think these people are going nuts.

[bruce]

The PI is still in business? Will wonders never cease? JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[leftyo]

i doubt most of the senators that voted on it have even read the bill. really dont think some paper has read it.

[barretcreek]

https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/germans-fear-huge-loss-of-jobs-from-us-tax-reform-865577

If Trump's Tax Plan jump starts the economy it will mean lots of jobs for Americans, ALL AMERICANS. Measurably increased employment in black communities will show the 'Rats have been sandbagging the economy to stay in power. IF corporate America starts re-investing in capital improvement which creates manufacturing jobs the 'Rats will be frothing at the mouth.

[Sandpebble]

A question... or two... if I may. This is not an attack... just a simple question ...or two.

We blue collars ..... who are still working.... will all be happy to save the promised average $900.00 a year on our taxes.. right ? After all when the tax cuts for us stops in a few years we'll be on SS ... hence we don't really give a fig....right?

Now we've all pissed and moaned about welfare.... right?.... so how do we feel about a non worker now getting a tax refund increased from$1400 to $2000 ..... just for being a Mother ?

And now lets question the promise that corporate tax breaks will not only keep jobs here in the US...... but actually bring jobs back from overseas... lots of jobs... good paying jobs.

Should this actually happen while we are presently boasting 4% unemployment who may I ask is actually going to work at all these new jobs ?.... are we going to have to invite people here {immigrants} to help fill all these new positions?

are we going to have to tear down that wall we haven't even built yet?

[dogtag]

Ah crap. You mean I can't keep my slaves ?

[Sandpebble]

Ah crap. You mean I can't keep my slaves ?

Ah yes... the man who can't abide others hijacking his threads can't answer a question... let me repeat it {them}

A question... or two... if I may. This is not an attack... just a simple question ...or two.

We blue collars ..... who are still working.... will all be happy to save the promised average $900.00 a year on our taxes.. right ? After all when the tax cuts for us stops in a few years we'll be on SS ... hence we don't really give a fig....right?

Now we've all pissed and moaned about welfare.... right?.... so how do we feel about a non worker now getting a tax refund increased from$1400 to $2000 ..... just for being a Mother ?

And now lets question the promise that corporate tax breaks will not only keep jobs here in the US...... but actually bring jobs back from overseas... lots of jobs... good paying jobs.

Should this actually happen while we are presently boasting 4% unemployment who may I ask is actually going to work at all these new jobs ?.... are we going to have to invite people here {immigrants} to help fill all these new positions?

are we going to have to tear down that wall we haven't even built yet?

[RED]

who may I ask is actually going to work at all these new jobs ?

How about the thousands of workers whose unemployment checks have gone away and have quit even looking for jobs and are no longer listed as "unemployed?" How about the thousands of people working at part time or piece rate jobs that are way below their skill or education levels? How about the thousands of people on Social Security that are still able to work but can't find a job that pays more than their Social Security check?

Do you really think that adult worker would rather be flipping eggs for $8.00/hour down at the Waffle House instead of working at a manufacturing job paying $25/hour + benefits?

I have given you an honest answer to your question. Give me an honest answer instead of your moronic bullsheet.

[dogtag]

Ah yes... the man who can't abide others hijacking his threads can't answer a question... let me repeat it {them}

A question... or two... if I may. This is not an attack... just a simple question ...or two.

We blue collars ..... who are still working.... will all be happy to save the promised average $900.00 a year on our taxes.. right ? After all when the tax cuts for us stops in a few years we'll be on SS ... hence we don't really give a fig....right?

Now we've all pissed and moaned about welfare.... right?.... so how do we feel about a non worker now getting a tax refund increased from$1400 to $2000 ..... just for being a Mother ?

And now lets question the promise that corporate tax breaks will not only keep jobs here in the US...... but actually bring jobs back from overseas... lots of jobs... good paying jobs.

Should this actually happen while we are presently boasting 4% unemployment who may I ask is actually going to work at all these new jobs ?.... are we going to have to invite people here {immigrants} to help fill all these new positions?

are we going to have to tear down that wall we haven't even built yet?

I didn't read your contribution. Still haven't.

[RED]

A look at Trumps tax plan:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/calculate-americans-taxes-senate-reform-bill/index.html

American workers these days generally make more money than we did 30-50 years ago.

Go to the link and fill in the numbers for itemize or not itemize on CNN's website. For the 94% of the Americans that earn between $20,000 and $125,000 they will (according to CNN) have a minuscule tax cut.

Think about that for a minute... They are saying if you earn $75 - $125 and itemize, you will get a 1.5% larger decrease than the folks that don't itemize. It seems to me CNN doesn't understand that everybody that itemizes, doesn't pay the same amount in taxes but they pay the same tax rate?

So what? The Trump tax bill will actually increase the amount of tax dollars collected as did the Reagan tax cuts. The problem is that when the National Socialist Party Democratic party (then in charge of both houses), voted to increase spending at a faster rate.

Never in the history of the world, has any NAZI/Commie ever favored a tax cut. Never in the history of the earth has a Socialist/Communist country succeeded in their endeavors... not one... not ever.

[Rock]

Tax Plan Calculator

By Maxim Lott
What the Trump tax plan means for YOU

http://taxplancalculator.com/

[S.A. Boggs]

Ah yes... the man who can't abide others hijacking his threads can't answer a question... let me repeat it {them}

A question... or two... if I may. This is not an attack... just a simple question ...or two.

We blue collars ..... who are still working.... will all be happy to save the promised average $900.00 a year on our taxes.. right ? After all when the tax cuts for us stops in a few years we'll be on SS ... hence we don't really give a fig....right?

Now we've all pissed and moaned about welfare.... right?.... so how do we feel about a non worker now getting a tax refund increased from$1400 to $2000 ..... just for being a Mother ?

And now lets question the promise that corporate tax breaks will not only keep jobs here in the US...... but actually bring jobs back from overseas... lots of jobs... good paying jobs.

Should this actually happen while we are presently boasting 4% unemployment who may I ask is actually going to work at all these new jobs ?.... are we going to have to invite people here {immigrants} to help fill all these new positions?

are we going to have to tear down that wall we haven't even built yet?

In my AO there are MANY in need of full time employment or better employment. Because of Obamacare years ago I went from full time to part time and NO BENEFITS. Now that I am retired and my health stays good I am going back to being self employed. In South East Ohio there is ample room for more jobs and not flipping burgers! Wouldn't it be better that anyone who wants a job can get one, no longer a need for welfare, government can then shift $ to other needed areas, people paying taxes instead of being on the dole...I could go on and on.
Sam

[bruce]

Used the calculator. Looks like a wash for me. I will continue to go long form. Otherwise loose to much. Do expect for many it will be a modest improvement. Sincerely. bruce.

[togor]

Red you can dance in celebration now if you like for the huge windfalls to people in Commercial Real Estate.

For my part I wouldn't trust Paul Ryan for a millesecond, so I wait for the other shoe to fall next year. We're hearing whispers of cuts to Medicare and maybe Social Security. Definitely to Medicaid. Of course no one here knows anyone who uses any of those programs.

My observation about this tax plan is that the direct effect is to put more money in the hands of people who already have a lot of it. You make the trickle down argument that this will change the equilibrium somehow such that wages go up at the bottom. An indirect effect. But insofar as capital is used to hold wages down through investments in automation and offshoring, all I think this does is free up more capital to do more of that. The result of this tax cut will not be to make US industry less efficient by raising labor costs.

[dave]

Cut back on welfare payments, stop free phones, cut way back on food stamps and clamp down on there use (what can be purchased with them) and more people will be available for work! 4% unemployment? Only the way the Gov. figures! They all want to look good!