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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Can Trump win re-election without Florida ? ...

    As a reminder for those here with short attention spans,
    I aired my fears here a week or so ago that Florida was
    being inundated with disgruntled Puerto Ricans who blame
    this administration for their hurricane misfortune.
    The several hundred thousand newcomers into that State
    could turn the place from Red to Blue. This would or will
    make it tough if not impossible for the President to remain so.
    So, back to the headline question: can Trump win without Florida ?
  • leftyo

    #2
    Originally posted by dogtag
    As a reminder for those here with short attention spans,
    I aired my fears here a week or so ago that Florida was
    being inundated with disgruntled Puerto Ricans who blame
    this administration for their hurricane misfortune.
    The several hundred thousand newcomers into that State
    could turn the place from Red to Blue. This would or will
    make it tough if not impossible for the President to remain so.
    So, back to the headline question: can Trump win without Florida ?
    i think that needs to be asked after the dems come up with a candidate.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      The Candidate doesn't matter. Democrats who hate Trump will vote
      for anyone who's still breathing, even if they're on a respirator and
      are deaf dumb and blind.

      Does that help you ?

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #4
        Originally posted by dogtag
        The Candidate doesn't matter. Democrats who hate Trump will vote
        for anyone who's still breathing, even if they're on a respirator and
        are deaf dumb and blind.

        Does that help you ?
        Maybe there is another guy like Barry out there.
        Sam

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        • leftyo

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          The Candidate doesn't matter. Democrats who hate Trump will vote
          for anyone who's still breathing, even if they're on a respirator and
          are deaf dumb and blind.

          Does that help you ?
          i think the candidate does matter. i agree those that will vote dem no matter what, however there are enough people on the fence that dont follow party lines, that it makes a difference.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10583

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            Maybe there is another guy like Barry out there.
            Sam
            If by that you mean someone placed here by outside forces and foreign money and interest with the one ultimate goal to destroy America I'm sure there's many of them just waiting for the chance. Illegal voting practices will help the democrats also like it always does.

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #7
              Good God. Can't any of you express an opinion without dithering ?
              The question was not about the democrat candidate, BUT:
              "Can Trump win without Florida?"
              The question assumes that Florida will have gone Blue.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10583

                #8
                Originally posted by dogtag
                Good God. Can't any of you express an opinion without dithering ?
                The question was not about the democrat candidate, BUT:
                "Can Trump win without Florida?"
                The question assumes that Florida will have gone Blue.
                Well, I believe that's the point we're trying to make. If all else remained the same then Trump probably could have stood to have lost FL in 2016. But, the democrats will be at work spreading their fear and propaganda. The DNC is probably paying PR citizens to remain in FL and perhaps other states. To lose a state like FL Trump may have to make it up with other states and that is doubtful. If Hillary or Bernie run then Trump will probably win 2020 w/o FL if all else remains the same. If the muslims or some axis of evil nation decides to put up another puppet to destroy America with unlimited $, corruption and voter fraud then Trump hasn't got a chance even if every state is supposedly red. Things will be different next time. Trump is on top right now but all hell will break lose at the next election. 3 years from now we'll have to see what shape the country is in. A war with NK, another recession (which is predicted) and stock market rallies/crashes will all be contributed to Trump whether positive or negative along with who runs against him. At this point I don't see how anyone could have a clue.
                Last edited by Allen; 01-01-2018, 02:28.

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                • leftyo

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dogtag
                  Good God. Can't any of you express an opinion without dithering ?
                  The question was not about the democrat candidate, BUT:
                  "Can Trump win without Florida?"
                  The question assumes that Florida will have gone Blue.
                  hard to fathom that there are those of us who want more info before jumping on the sword. can he win without florida, it matters who the heck he is running against!

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                  • barretcreek
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 6065

                    #10
                    'Rats will run Kamala Harris. More identity politics. "Did I mention I'm a woman?" Yeah, well only white women 'of a certain age' care.
                    Without FL the math will be tough, but if the economy actually improves-good paying manufacturing jobs, the 'Rats hold on minorities in Chi, Detroit, PA, MN, NJ may fold. I read a poll which gave The Messiah a two point favorability rating with black males over white males. After Moore's defeat Tom Perez gave black females the credit for squeaking in Jones. Jobs are a the major concern with the black people I worked with. Good jobs mean moving to a neighborhood with better schools. 46 electoral votes? There's a lot of black voters in FL and none of the black folks I know like Puerto Ricans. If they see a 'Rat courting the Puerto Rican vote in FL they may not show up. Refer to my post about Bawlamer and the disconnect between the residents and Our Betters.

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                    • dogtag
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14985

                      #11
                      [QUOTE=barretcreek;517140]'Rats will run Kamala Harris. More identity politics. "Did I mention I'm a woman?" Yeah, well only white women 'of a certain age' care.

                      No, I didn't. Do now though. Better watch my French from now on.
                      Anyway, good thoughts there

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                      • Bt Doctur
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 162

                        #12
                        If President Trump can bring back the jobs to the US and bring back the cities that have crumbled then I see a lot more turning from Blue to Red.
                        The Democrats have killed this country with all the free give-aways. The dork we got in New Jersey isn`t any better. Free education, weed farmers and users, sanctuary state enabling illegals to come here and sponge off the working class.
                        The so called Democratic voters better start to realize their party is taking them to the cleaners and eventually the democratic voting base will be paying dearly for voting Democratic instead of voting with their heads

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