Could be?

[S.A. Boggs]

If you read the 4473 there is a section on the use of illegal substances, if "medical" cannabis users are added to the database guess what. You can kiss your being able to purchase a firearm and/or retain one. Cannabis is an illegal substance regardless of what a state says so beware when answering the question as it is a felony to misrepresent an answer.
Sam

[free1954]

a slippery slope indeed. does federal law trump state's rights? wasn't this how the civil war started? will the government come in and confiscate the arms of the citizens of the legal cannabis states?

[bruce]

Small potatoes being picked by someone who can't seem to actually bring himself to go after the really big stuff. Wasting time, money, manpower on low level nickle and dime beer level stuff rather than aiming at clinton and her cabal. Makes perfect sense in a Mayberry scheme of things. To bad. To bad because what he's focusing on just doesn't matter. To bad because his failure to go after clinton genuinely hurts this nation and its future. Just to bad. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[togor]

"Do users of illegal drugs have 2A rights?"

Very interesting question, Sam. Kudos!

What is your opinion?

[S.A. Boggs]

"Do users of illegal drugs have 2A rights?"

Very interesting question, Sam. Kudos!

What is your opinion?

Either way it goes a hornets nest is kicked. Federal law passed by Congress and the BATF has to enforce in regards to illegal substances. IF the BATF stands their ground and you use and say no then you have committed a felony with possible club fed and loss of rights as a felon. I say let this all play out until Congress does something to alter the cannabis laws. The federal law enforcement should enforce the laws, not look the other way or what good is the meaning of law enforcement? This stuff is called dope for a reason! Having worked with addicts I have seen the damage caused by this "innocent" drug. Wasted [literally] money, talent, lives, relationships and the list goes on and on.
Sam

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a slippery slope indeed. does federal law trump state's rights? wasn't this how the civil war started? will the government come in and confiscate the arms of the citizens of the legal cannabis states?

Federal law does go above state law and yes, it will be enforced. Question this: Do states have to enforce federal law regardless?
Sam

[dryheat]

California does whatever it wants to, Jerry Brown said so.

[barretcreek]

Colorado made it clear from the beginning, when there was medical marijuana but no legal recreational sales. If you had a med card, you could not purchase a weapon. The reason was simple: the 'standard' for getting a med card was 'I want one'. No follow up. M.D. friend said he refused to sign the things.
Marijuana is a complex substance and the current stuff is a highly manipulated crop. Several friends have tried it and say 'no way'.
County Attorney told me the DEA is not interested in any real medical research being done on pot (vs. pharmaceutical derivatives) because it would cut away at their rice bowl.
Example, a guy who comes home from work every day and has a joint to steel himself to face the wife and kids. His blood THC concentration before lighting up might place him in the 'impaired' category yet he was 23 hours from his last intake. He's sober. If he gets in a traffic accident on the way home from work how do you evaluate that, compared to the guy who shares one in the parking lot with his buddies but has a similar blood THC level.

The legislation has been poorly worked out and it is the fault of the industry for not wanting any way to evaluate their product, the state for just wanting a new revenue stream, and the Feds for refusing to budge from their 'Reefer Madness' throne.

[togor]

Colorado made it clear from the beginning, when there was medical marijuana but no legal recreational sales. If you had a med card, you could not purchase a weapon. The reason was simple: the 'standard' for getting a med card was 'I want one'. No follow up. M.D. friend said he refused to sign the things.
Marijuana is a complex substance and the current stuff is a highly manipulated crop. Several friends have tried it and say 'no way'.
County Attorney told me the DEA is not interested in any real medical research being done on pot (vs. pharmaceutical derivatives) because it would cut away at their rice bowl.
Example, a guy who comes home from work every day and has a joint to steel himself to face the wife and kids. His blood THC concentration before lighting up might place him in the 'impaired' category yet he was 23 hours from his last intake. He's sober. If he gets in a traffic accident on the way home from work how do you evaluate that, compared to the guy who shares one in the parking lot with his buddies but has a similar blood THC level.

The legislation has been poorly worked out and it is the fault of the industry for not wanting any way to evaluate their product, the state for just wanting a new revenue stream, and the Feds for refusing to budge from their 'Reefer Madness' throne.

Great post.

[clintonhater]

Example, a guy who comes home from work every day and has a joint to steel himself to face the wife and kids.

I sympathize with him, but what he really needs is a divorce, not a joint. And anyway, wouldn't a glass of wine serve the same purpose; which, if necessary, he could drink in front of his kids?

[S.A. Boggs]

I had a client who was on parole and was checked @random and came up negative except one time for THC and was sanctioned severely. He stayed away from the stuff and his numbers kept declining as it should. With one test he still had numbers 6 months after the fact. THC stores in the fat cells so it comes out slowly. Because of availability how is government to distinguish between "medicinal" and home grown or bought on the street? Now for the cops, why should they risk their lives/career to intercept ANY illegal drug? There is already an uptake of people using and driving, how much is this going to cost society in $$$ California says they will reap 1 billion dollars in benefits, how much will the liabilities cut into this? If you are in an accident and you test positive for THC will your insurance cover the accident, if not who will? I agree, people will use this noxious weed but eventually all of society will pay for their privilege. Higher insurance premiums, trips to the E.R., possible increased crime in some areas. Just because you can doesn't mean you should! Guy's will lose their firearms and their ability to purchase because cannabis is still illegal if Congress doesn't change the laws. States cannot over ride federal law, the War between the states provided for that. The Attorney General is well within his legal authority to have the DEA, U.S. Marshals raid these places, confiscate property and take people into federal custody for federal prosecution. It is also possible to prosecute officials who helped to facilitate the circumnavigation of federal laws. As I said before, this could get real interesting real quick with just one federal prosecution or more. If I was Sessions I would start in California which has been a thorn in this administrations side, sort of a warning shot across the bow. Even if the people are found not guilty their property and $$$ are gone.
Sam

[swampyankee]

What's the slippery slope? Pot heads shouldn't own firearms. What's the problem?

[togor]

What's the slippery slope? Pot heads shouldn't own firearms. What's the problem?

I happen to agree with you. But should drunks? People who take opioids while on disability? As soon as a line gets drawn, people will argue about whether it's in the right spot or needs to get moved.

[S.A. Boggs]

I have seen people take medication proper with no problem, self medicating big problems. One guy was self medicating with street drugs, spaced out and murdered his nurse wife with an AK-47s in front of his two children. People can take medication that is properly prescribed with little to no problem. I can't think of a major issue with prescribed medication save for one and that was a weight gain problem. I am seen people on major medication and their life actually improve to a great degree and > positive functioning. The problem arises when people self medicate with OTC AND/OR street drugs.
Sam

[togor]

Sam I've seen people with chronic pain, including late stage cancer, get immense relief from powerful, well managed pain meds. But that can mean someone else does the managing, and yes I wonder if they have any business undertaking firearms related activities.

[Dick Hosmer]

AFAIK, the PRK already DOES (for all practical purposes) "override" federal law in the firearms arena.