That's what I'd like to know

[dryheat]

Trump asks a simple question-

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/01/1...countries.html

[togor]

It's the wrong question for a conservative to ask. A conservative would consider the merits of the individual person not the land they come from. A liberal might feel the need give extra help to people from certain places for misguided emotional reasons. An angry internet grandpa might feel the need to exclude people from certain places, again for emotional reasons.

Trump with that remark bears witness to claims his detractors make about him, and which his people toil (in vain) to deny. Nobody should wonder why there are "help wanted" signs in the West wing.

[clintonhater]

A conservative would consider the merits of the individual person not the land they come from. A liberal might feel the need give extra help to people from certain places for misguided emotional reasons.

So were "individual merits" what was considered when Obummer awarded visas to 38,901 ragheads in 2016? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ugees-in-2016/

"Extra help to people from certain places," ALWAYS from the Turd World, has been the real, but undeclared, US immigration policy for decades, not something on the Dem's wish-list. Yes, of course, Trump's language was badly chosen, as usual, but his outrage over this rotten state of affairs is understandable. But he should have said "why, with all this country's natural disasters & other problems, do we need more poverty-cases from alien cultures?"

[leftyo]

It's the wrong question for a conservative to ask. A conservative would consider the merits of the individual person not the land they come from. A liberal might feel the need give extra help to people from certain places for misguided emotional reasons. An angry internet grandpa might feel the need to exclude people from certain places, again for emotional reasons.

Trump with that remark bears witness to claims his detractors make about him, and which his people toil (in vain) to deny. Nobody should wonder why there are "help wanted" signs in the West wing.

really, only a liberal can ask a question(as an American president he should be asking every dang question he can think of , not just the pre scripted bs the sheep think he should or shouldnt)? wonderful how you think you have conservatives all figured out. guess what, your wrong! wow have you got the blinders on extra tight today.

[togor]

So were "individual merits" what was considered when Obummer awarded visas to 38,901 ragheads in 2016? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ugees-in-2016/

"Extra help to people from certain places," ALWAYS from the Turd World, has been the real, but undeclared, US immigration policy for decades, not something on the Dem's wish-list. Yes, of course, Trump's language was badly chosen, as usual, but his outrage over this rotten state of affairs is understandable. But he should have said "why, with all this country's natural disasters & other problems, do we need more poverty-cases from alien cultures?"

I doubt it. Obama had a soft spot as I described. Some here have a hard spot in the same place. Trump has a very hard spot, apparently.

A practical conservative would recognize that even a sh*thole country produces some exceptional people, and that an immigration policy that gets the best individual achievers from other lands is in fact pretty shrewd.

If someone is oozing talent then it shouldn't matter if they're from Norway, Portugal or Senegal. That's how I see it. I agree that's not what we have today.

As for the remark itself, quintessential Trump, no doubt about it. Plays great to the base, but as a politician I doubt he'll ever be housebroken, and so as a result some other politicians and leaders will never let him on their carpet if they can find a way to avoid it. Trump will have to get used to that.

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really, only a liberal can ask a question(as an American president he should be asking every dang question he can think of , not just the pre scripted bs the sheep think he should or shouldnt)? wonderful how you think you have conservatives all figured out. guess what, your wrong! wow have you got the blinders on extra tight today.

Boy for a liberal you sure are amped up.

[leftyo]

I doubt it. Obama had a soft spot as I described. Some here have a hard spot in the same place. Trump has a very hard spot, apparently.

A practical conservative would recognize that even a sh*thole country produces some exceptional people, and that an immigration policy that gets the best individual achievers from other lands is in fact pretty shrewd.

If someone is oozing talent then it shouldn't matter if they're from Norway, Portugal or Senegal. That's how I see it. I agree that's not what we have today.

As for the remark itself, quintessential Trump, no doubt about it. Plays great to the base, but as a politician I doubt he'll ever be housebroken, and so as a result some other politicians and leaders will never let him on their carpet if they can find a way to avoid it. Trump will have to get used to that.

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Boy for a liberal you sure are amped up.

even your not that stupid!

[Vern Humphrey]

I like the one where the liberal gal was asked, "Would you rather live in Norway or Haiti" and she was so anal-retentive she couldn't choose!

[togor]

even your not that stupid!

"leftyo"?

Anyways, FWIW, when I heard the remark I just sorta shrugged....no outrage but no applause either. Why he does it, I don't know, but the consequences are his, not mine. In his shoes, the way I'm wired to operate, I probably don't say that without a good reason for pushing people a certain way. That's me. He is his own guy with his own reasons.

So why do people think he let loose with "sh*thole"? Genuinely curious. Was he just frustrated with the room or is there some other cunning at work?

[leftyo]

"leftyo"?

Anyways, FWIW, when I heard the remark I just sorta shrugged....no outrage but no applause either. Why he does it, I don't know, but the consequences are his, not mine. In his shoes, the way I'm wired to operate, I probably don't say that without a good reason for pushing people a certain way. That's me. He is his own guy with his own reasons.

So why do people think he let loose with "sh*thole"? Genuinely curious. Was he just frustrated with the room or is there some other cunning at work?

so i gave you too much credit, and you are that stupid!

[clintonhater]

So why do people think he let loose with "sh*thole"? Genuinely curious. Was he just frustrated with the room or is there some other cunning at work?

EVERYONE--except the Dems, who correctly view Turd Worlders as eventual recruits to their party--should be frustrated, or rather outraged, by the plans of the radical left to make the descendants of the Europeans who built this country a minority of the US population, and to submerge traditional Western culture under "World Culture." THAT is what it's all about.

But now that the crude, but crucial, question HAS been asked, rather than back away from it, Trump should insist on an answer from his enemies--let them explain WHY more Haitians, Nigerians, etc. are an asset to the country as a whole, and not just the Dem party? (But white Christians in fear of raghead persecution are not.)

[togor]

EVERYONE--except the Dems, who correctly view Turd Worlders as eventual recruits to their party--should be frustrated, or rather outraged, by the plans of the radical left to make the descendants of the Europeans who built this country a minority of the US population, and to submerge traditional Western culture under "World Culture." THAT is what it's all about.

But now that the crude, but crucial, question HAS been asked, rather than back away from it, Trump should insist on an answer from his enemies--let them explain WHY more Haitians, Nigerians, etc. are an asset to the country as a whole, and not just the Dem party? (But white Christians in fear of raghead persecution are not.)

I think you give the Europeans too much credit, at least for what they've done of late (WW1, WW2, invention of Nazism, Communism), but I agree with you that there is some countercultural sentimentality to US immigration. Maybe now that the question is out there we have a conversation about how to do it right.

Are there dairy farms in your area? Spanish spoken there?

[clintonhater]

Are there dairy farms in your area? Spanish spoken there?

Farm workers of all varieties should be allowed to WORK here, with proper documentation, but not given permanent residency--they go home when they stop doing farm work, even if in themean time they marry an American slut (of which the number is unlimited).

[togor]

Farm workers of all varieties should be allowed to WORK here, with proper documentation, but not given permanent residency--they go home when they stop doing farm work, even if in themean time they marry an American slut (of which the number is unlimited).

Dairy farms benefit from long term stability to the labor supply. Are you prepared to give them that, even if it means lots of little Hispanics in the local school?

[clintonhater]

Dairy farms benefit from long term stability to the labor supply. Are you prepared to give them that, even if it means lots of little Hispanics in the local school?

Are they coming to work or to breed? Only workers should be granted work-visas, not the whole family. And that's exactly what many of them do now, send their wages back to their families. Especially in the Philippines, working overseas to support their families is a way of life--most of them have no intention of trying to stay here illegally.

[togor]

Are they coming to work or to breed? Only workers should be granted work-visas, not the whole family. And that's exactly what many of them do now, send their wages back to their families. Especially in the Philippines, working overseas to support their families is a way of life--most of them have no intention of trying to stay here illegally.

I get what you're saying. In the summer tourism industries, that makes sense. Dairy farming is a little different. Not my problem to solve for them.

CH what I respect about you is that you're not afraid to give a straight answer.