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  • Sandpebble
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 2196

    #1

    What goes around..... comes around

    what goes around ... comes around

    For many years I belted out the complaint of foriegn intrusion coming across my border to steal my job . I voted for Pat Buchanan once on the strength of his desire to seal my border, and I wrote him in on the next election in preference of that loser GW for the same reason.

    Now I'll stand with trump on the sealing of the border and tossing out that kid who crossed that border two years ago.... or the likes of MS-13. But something else has been thrown into the equation. Something important... that something is people like Jorge Garcia who was deported back to mexico yesterday....

    This morning I read about Jorge Garcia who was brought by his parents into the United States over 29 years ago. With no other option offered a 10 yr. old child Jorge assimilated into the only home he's known for twenty nine years..... 29 years . I looked at the pictures of his sobbing American ctizen wife and his teen age children as that family was torn apart by immigration officers at that airport.

    It surprises me how such a strong country the likes of the United States, can be so hateful, and so afraid. I'm old enough to remember when people of color drank from a seperate water fountains for no other reason than pure un Christain hate.... or was it fear? And it appears we haven't really progressed very far.

    As a nation that touts its Christian beliefs and values I'm ashamed that after 29 years we can look that man and his family.... his American family... in the eye and say Fck You. But I guess we really are that afraid... aren't we? But what are we afraid of ? .....

    Someone has convinced us that after 29 years we need to be afraid he is here because Democrats want his vote..... even though Republicans are just as respnsible for his past presence....

    and now his deportation has created more Democratic votes than you can imagine....and ya know?.... we could have used a guy like Jorge
  • leftyo

    #2
    so you wanna just keep letting them pour over the border? while we can definately have compassion and feel sorry for these people, they broke the laws of this country coming here!

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #3
      Thought marriage to US citizen made it easy to acquire citizenship.

      A terrible misfortune for that individual, but how else is it going to be possible to remove the incentive for others like him to come here illegally under the assumption that if they just hang around long enough, & stay out of serious trouble, the "compassionate" US gov't will eventually forget their violation & let them remain? That cycle has to be broken, or might as well declare an open border.

      Here's a case I wish would attract the attention of ICE: every time I drive into town, I pass a house inhabited by a worthless white-trash whore who several years ago took up with a Haitian half her age who came to pick apples in one of the big orchards near here; heaven knows how they got together, but there's no slut so ugly that she can't attract some kind of stud. Now fortunately this slut was already beyond child-bearing age, but she had a not too bad looking teenage daughter. Evidently Haitian #1 begin bringing Haitian #2 around to visit, and the upshot is that now, several yrs later, the daughter has at least two mulatto brats, and every once in a while when I drive past, I'll see the whole disgusting crowd standing around in the yard. Such a scene you could see in block after block of any major city, but I'm talking about a tiny rural hamlet 50 m. away from any urban area.

      So I'm all out of sympathy for such deportation cases.

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      • k arga
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 565

        #4
        Why didn't Jorge apply for US citizenship , he had many years to do so.

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        • Sandpebble
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 2196

          #5
          three days ago ...

          Originally posted by clintonhater
          Thought marriage to US citizen made it easy to acquire citizenship.

          A terrible misfortune for that individual, but how else is it going to be possible to remove the incentive for others like him to come here illegally under the assumption that if they just hang around long enough, & stay out of serious trouble, the "compassionate" US gov't will eventually forget their violation & let them remain? That cycle has to be broken, or might as well declare an open border.

          Here's a case I wish would attract the attention of ICE: every time I drive into town, I pass a house inhabited by a worthless white-trash whore who several years ago took up with a Haitian half her age who came to pick apples in one of the big orchards near here; heaven knows how they got together, but there's no slut so ugly that she can't attract some kind of stud. Now fortunately this slut was already beyond child-bearing age, but she had a not too bad looking teenage daughter. Evidently Haitian #1 begin bringing Haitian #2 around to visit, and the upshot is that now, several yrs later, the daughter has at least two mulatto brats, and every once in a while when I drive past, I'll see the whole disgusting crowd standing around in the yard. Such a scene you could see in block after block of any major city, but I'm talking about a tiny rural hamlet 50 m. away from any urban area.

          So I'm all out of sympathy for such deportation cases.
          Three days ago as I walked in to our local supermarket one of the many .. and I mean many... local beggars went up to the big ash tray out front. He lifted the top off, dropped to his knees and started digging out any cigarette butt longer than an inch out of the bucket of sand.

          " Hello Sir... how are you?"... he asked

          " Don't even ask" I said before he could put the bite on me....

          This ahole hasn't answered a job ad in years and so I'm all out of sympathy for such "non deportational" cases .....

          .... sorry... one Jorge is worth 20 useless American druggies that bother me for money every time I go shopping
          Last edited by Sandpebble; 01-16-2018, 04:43.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #6
            Originally posted by Sandpebble
            what goes around ... comes around

            For many years I belted out the complaint of foriegn intrusion coming across my border to steal my job . I voted for Pat Buchanan once on the strength of his desire to seal my border, and I wrote him in on the next election in preference of that loser GW for the same reason.

            Now I'll stand with trump on the sealing of the border and tossing out that kid who crossed that border two years ago.... or the likes of MS-13. But something else has been thrown into the equation. Something important... that something is people like Jorge Garcia who was deported back to mexico yesterday....

            This morning I read about Jorge Garcia who was brought by his parents into the United States over 29 years ago. With no other option offered a 10 yr. old child Jorge assimilated into the only home he's known for twenty nine years..... 29 years . I looked at the pictures of his sobbing American ctizen wife and his teen age children as that family was torn apart by immigration officers at that airport.

            It surprises me how such a strong country the likes of the United States, can be so hateful, and so afraid. I'm old enough to remember when people of color drank from a seperate water fountains for no other reason than pure un Christain hate.... or was it fear? And it appears we haven't really progressed very far.

            As a nation that touts its Christian beliefs and values I'm ashamed that after 29 years we can look that man and his family.... his American family... in the eye and say Fck You. But I guess we really are that afraid... aren't we? But what are we afraid of ? .....

            Someone has convinced us that after 29 years we need to be afraid he is here because Democrats want his vote..... even though Republicans are just as respnsible for his past presence....

            and now his deportation has created more Democratic votes than you can imagine....and ya know?.... we could have used a guy like Jorge
            Why are you constantly so full of anger at your adoptive county? The immigration laws are made by Congress and enforced by the Department of Justice. Apparently there is no waver for him or his kind which is tough. The bottom line is that his parents committed an illegal act and he carried on the illegal act. He could have gone on back to his native land and chose not to. Perhaps you should go back to your native land where you might be happier as you are not here. I want my countries laws enforced as written, if people want them change petition for a change. It is sad that families are being split but the parents are to blame not my country. When foreigners realized that they will be held accountable for their illegal activities perhaps they will not come here so brazenly. Personally I would like to see out troops brought home and placed on the border. Can you imagine if an illegal ran into the 1/504 82ABN?
            Sam

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            • leftyo

              #7
              Originally posted by Sandpebble
              Three days ago as I walked in to our local supermarket one of the many .. and I mean many... local beggars went up to the big ash tray out front. He lifted the top off, dropped to his knees and started digging out any cigarette butt longer than an inch out of the bucket of sand.

              " Hello Sir... how are you?"... he asked

              " Don't even ask" I said before he could put the bite on me....

              This ahole hasn't answered a job ad in years and so I'm all out of sympathy for such "non deportational" cases .....

              .... sorry... one Jorge is worth 20 useless American druggies that bother me for money every time I go shopping
              sorry, but maybe if we enforce our immigration laws, it may light a fire to getting other laws enforced and you wouldnt have to deal with beggars. but since all the liberals in this country dont want laws enforced, nor do they want anyone kept in jails for committing crimes, its just going to keep on happening . if you really like ol jorge, maybe you can share a room with him.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #8
                If your illegal, getting married to a citizen doesn't cure it. I know a family where the daughter married an illegal. He got several dui's and he is back in Mexico. His wife has to visit him there. That was a few years ago, I don't know the situation now.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Well there is no law in this country, including immigration law, that can't be bent out of the way for the people with money. That much we already know. So yeah we have laws but this "our laws are sacred"...nobody really believes that. Jorge is a good guy but there are a lot of Jorges in this country, too many to make an exception, so INS will get to them one by one, and that is that. Unless they're rich or well connected, or, I guess, Norwegian.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sandpebble
                    .... sorry... one Jorge is worth 20 useless American druggies that bother me for money every time I go shopping
                    Nobody would dispute that--but you're resorting to a straw-man argument. Whether those "useless American druggies" live or die (my preference), they have no bearing on the invasion of our country by illegals. In fact, toleration of them is yet another demonstration of misplaced compassion. Homelessness in this country is a national disgrace--they should be rounded up, provided with decent, safe housing & other necessities, but forced into drug treatment; those that are too far gone to save should just be warehoused in mental institutions; expensive, but better than the appalling situation you describe.

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                    • JB White
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13371

                      #11
                      Funny how nobody batted an eyelash over similar situations in the past when it was white people being deported back to Poland and other eastern euro countries. What about all the Piotr's and Yortek's who have been being shipped out for decades? Now it's a "Hispanic" and folks want to shed a tear for poor little Jorge. Illegal entry/border jumping needs to be controlled and it needs to start somewhere.

                      Friend for years was Eliseo. Then I found out his name was Jorge and he'd been living here illegally. A "friend" who pulled a con job on all of us every day by playing a fake role. Fake identity, faked property lease, stolen credit cards...stolen American job. Nobody needs friends like that so good riddance.
                      2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                      **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Would need a specific example JB.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          And then there's this guy



                          Proof that the law is no so iron clad after all.

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            And then there's this guy



                            Proof that the law is no so iron clad after all.
                            For now! Would YOU be willing to be responsible totally for an illegal and their family? Or is it the government's job?
                            Sam

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              For now! Would YOU be willing to be responsible totally for an illegal and their family? Or is it the government's job?
                              Sam
                              Can you rephrase?

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