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Have ICE agents when the "Dreamers" show up Tuesday night in Congress. Haven't heard that Congress is a "sanctuary" yet.
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Who Trump should have on hand is numerous victims of rape, theft, assault and other crimes done by the dreamers and other illegals.
As far as ICE is concerned, they aren't arresting them now. Bringing them on the same stage together would just remind everyone about it.Comment
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I remember Elian ... but Elian was no "Dreamer" ... his mother drowned during a brave effort to make it to the United States . Elians Father... by birth... wanted his son back... wanted his son back.... and it had to go to court because conservatives said no.... imagine that .
Reason I remember it so well is that while that was going on my sister in law ... as a green card holder at the time {now citizen } had to leave the U.S. to care for an ailing parent. Some kind of snafu occured an when coming back her two year old son ended up a few days past the required re entry date on his visa.
In order to keep her green card she had to leave her child behind with relatives. They were seperated two years while it got straightened out. Two years while we saw our country fight to keep a kid here who had no immediate family ... surely none he knew.
Kind of odd when you think that so many anti DACA people ..... are the same people that tried so hard to keep Elian .
I would be most proud to add an adendum ...
That young 2 year old is now in his third year of higher education while working a fulltime 3rd shift job .... his only assistance is from his sister who works to cover the rent on their shared apartment to help him obtain a goal..... they seem like usefull members of American society to me..... they have ambition... and three years ago when he started school...that young man wasn't listening to anybody that this country was down and out ....like he would read hereLast edited by Sandpebble; 01-29-2018, 01:12.Comment
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Good for her--she followed the law, apparently. But the parents of most of those DACA people did not. So if their kids are allowed to stay (which is almost certain), what about their parents who brought them her? Amnesty for them also? Unless the chain-migration law is changed (which is not certain), then the DACA kids will eventually be able to sponsor their own illegal parents!Comment
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The whole point of my arguement Clinton is that if our Government did nothing {or at least little } to stop their entry { under "guidance".. I believe.. of Corporate America} ... and couldn't get off their ass to round them up for a period of time that allowed them to raise children from babe to adulthood through the span of three Presidents.... well, what the fuxk ? Are we still afraid he's gonna steal our job ?
Are we afraid that DACA kid is going to be a little more ambitious than our own internet game playing offspring ? I'm saying you came across that river 18 months ago and got caught... see ya, out ya go.... but if they've had the wherewithal to make it this far....to raise children here.... maybe we could use that kind of determination
If our own government over decades didn't uphold "that" law.... why are we so offended by someone with the guts to fend for a family in a manner many of us wouldn't have the nuts to do ?Last edited by Sandpebble; 01-29-2018, 04:45.Comment
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In the grand scheme of things, do the DACAs matter? One way or the other? Set long term immigration quotas that make sense, set up an ID system for all employers to use, and things will get better.Comment
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The U.S. went down this road in 1986 with the Democratic Party[before they morphed into the present day NSAWP] stating the amnesty and immigration laws would take care of the "problem"...it didn't. Now the NSAWP want to do it all over only on a grander scale and the "problem" will be fixed once and for all. Enforce our current immigration laws that the old Democratic Party so enthusiastically supported. To do otherwise is sheer folly, will some "innocents" be hurt and the answer is yes they will. This is unfortunate but life is not easy. Just because "they" have lived here doesn't mean this is their country. They are Mexican or other's by birth, their parents broke into my country to take what did not belong to them. In my neck of the woods this is called stealing. In about 6 weeks this becomes a mute point as 5 March is the "deadline" for Congress to do something. DACA will be another painful chapter of Obama that is closed. All this DACA "registration" did is to show ICE where the illegals are living, sanctuary in churches will also come to an end. There is nothing in law that prevents ICE from arresting illegals in a church building and arresting those who aid and abet an illegal criminal.
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There is no sanctuary from the law.Comment
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Guys, 'trax is right. Spouting pieties about the sanctity of the law doesn't get it done. Fix the policies going forward. That means a compromise between the bleeders, the nativists, and the exploiters. Get that right and the fate of the DACAs is a blip. But as a practical matter, kicking them out gives a bunch of people who know our ways a reason to hate us. That would be stupid.
PS: An unreconstructed secessionist like Allen has no business talking about the sanctity of anything. Period. Rebs don't count in the United States of America.Comment
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