Are those naughty Russians here or in Russia ? ...

[dogtag]

If I understood it correctly, these are Russian "Trolls"
operating from Russia. If that's so, then what exactly
would be the point in indicting them ?
Maybe Muella has to indict someone he can't possibly
prosecute in order to save face.
If they're here, they may not be for very long as I
would expect them to hop the next Aeroflot home,
or failing that, maybe they can go to their Embassy
and get Diplomatic Immunity.

[togor]

DT how do we know you're really posting from America and not Londonistan? Sounds to me like you're trying to undermine the faith of Americans in their counterintelligence agencies.

[Sandpebble]

Infiltration ....

I have no doubt that Mueller is correct in that there has been Russian influence on us . Particularly now with the use of the internet and social networking .
His indictments... for what they're worth ... are likely right on the money. Russia and the KGB have been an opponent of the United States since prior to my birth some 60 plus years ago. And for not one single moment do I believe that has changed to this day.

There are those on this forum worthy of suspect along the same lines of Muellers accusations ... for instance ...
Any one notice the amount of Daily Mail links posted ??? yeah, of course you do
Under the "guise" of being pro conservative people leave these links here which are meant to show us all how terrible things here in the United States are. But thats not what these links really are... they are meant to ridicule us all ....

Of all the Daily Mail links posted here I'd like some one to point out one... just one... that is Pro America...
no ... no ... don't give me that.... I don't mean anti Liberal .. anti Democrat ...

I mean a plain old Pro America article in the Daily Mail that makes us look good ...

bet ya can't ...
and what does that say about those who constantly post them ... ?

[Sandpebble]

no opinions on this one huh?

[bruce]

I have no doubt that Mueller is correct in that there has been Russian influence on us . Particularly now with the use of the internet and social networking .
His indictments... for what they're worth ... are likely right on the money. Russia and the KGB have been an opponent of the United States since prior to my birth some 60 plus years ago. And for not one single moment do I believe that has changed to this day.

The russians are not coming. The russians are here. They have been here since the days of the fur trappers. Nowadays, they are no different than when they first arrived. They first arrived to give indians "the business." They are here now to give America "the business." Once they offered trinkets for furs, etc. Now they offer what passes for money, etc., for access to our nations media and political discussions, decisions. Those making decisions in the russia of today are enemies of all free people ... not merely we who are Americans but all people who do not want to see their way of life and their nation subordinated to the will and whims of those like putin who cling to a past that could only stand while it was walled away from the rest of the world. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[togor]

Pebble the general silence on this subject only mirrors that of the CINC, who appears primarily interested in his own hide.

[Roadkingtrax]

Pebble the general silence on this subject only mirrors that of the CINC, who appears primarily interested in his own hide.

Silence might be a combination of disinterest, and maybe...just maybe a sliver of guilt for being prostitued for patriotism and xenophobia.

[bostonbound]

Meddling in other countries is wrong? That can't be true - Obama set the example for the Russians by spending massive amounts of US tax dollars to try to defeat Netanyahu in the Israeli elections.

If the Lord our Savior Barak Hussein does it, how can it be wrong?

[Sandpebble]

Meddling in other countries is wrong? That can't be true - Obama set the example for the Russians by spending massive amounts of US tax dollars to try to defeat Netanyahu in the Israeli elections.

If the Lord our Savior Barak Hussein does it, how can it be wrong?

Wow Boston .... have ya never read any history to our overseas involvements prior to Obama ... ? ..... just askin man as at least a dozen countries spring instantly to mind .....

When we cried foul that a foriegn goverment may have been involved in meddling with out elections all of South America laughed... and laughed ... and laughed again.

[Bill D]

Well, I guess you made bostonbound’s point. Meddling in the political affairs of another country is not something invented by Trump.

[togor]

Well what we're seeing in the age of Trump is something new to my experience. Some Americans accept the active meddling of rival foreign power's propaganda arm in our public affairs so long as the net effect is to benefit the candidate of their choice.

Look at it from Ivan's point of view for a second. Which target are you going to choose? The side more easily duped, of course. (Or perhaps the side in which you already have a partial ownership stake?) No way is this a badge of honor on the Trumpist Republicans.